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need some input...

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Cousin Jack, Dec 24, 2005.

  1. Cousin Jack

    Cousin Jack Knifemaker Founding Member

    Not that I can afford one right now, but that's not going to stop me from planning....

    I would like a decent, rugged, somewhat accurate .223

    I am thinking about the AR180B or even a Kel-Tec SU-16C. Any suggestions? I have read good things about both of these rifles...surprisingly, I have read a lot of very positive things about the Kel-Tec.
  2. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Check out Fulton Armory.
  3. Cousin Jack

    Cousin Jack Knifemaker Founding Member

    Huh?...I don't get it. I know they sell M14 and AR15 variants. I'm not looking for either of those.
  4. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Dunno what to tell you, then. Mine is decently accurate (carbine) as rugged as they come possibly excepting the extractors, (a known weak point on ALL Stoner design clones so far as I know) and that has been addressed by Fulton. But it IS an AR, so it seems off your radar. No prob here.
  5. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Cousin Jack, take a look at the Daewoo DR 200. It's the standard rifle of the Korean Army, very reliable, and uses the AR mags. They took the best parts of the AR's and AK's and made a rifle out of them. Cheaper than an AR too. They also don't eat where they crap!
  6. Cousin Jack

    Cousin Jack Knifemaker Founding Member

    Well...price is a consideration...and the AR's are a little pricey. I know that the 180B is coming close to the AR15 in price range, but I like the gas piston set-up on the 180, as opposed to the AR15's system, so that is why I am leaning away from them.
  7. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    What about the Ruger mini 14? I know they can be quite accurate and the 10/22 I know is a real fine and pretty rugged gun. I saw one at the local shop when I went to pick up my AK for like $325. Also they are easy to get parts and accessories for, so on a budget, in .223 I would at least take a serious look at them.
  8. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Happy with my Mini-14 too.

    They have some bad reps but I've not had any probs.

    What's your price range?
  9. Cousin Jack

    Cousin Jack Knifemaker Founding Member

    I have zero denero in the piggy right now. I just want to have a ".223 goal" in mind to plan for in the future. I do not want an AR15, but am open to just about anything else.
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