Need to identify this one ..

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Homunculi, Apr 25, 2017.


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  1. Homunculi

    Homunculi Monkey++

    my grand father passed away on July 4th last year .. the estate is starting to be released so far I got 2 pistols one was very easy to identify
    Here is the pic

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  2. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Are there any markings to go with? Mfr, caliber, model number, patent dates? 5 or 6 shot? I'm pretty sure that the trigger folds forward. Carefully take the grips off, interior marks are frequently encountered that help with ID.
     
  3. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    The one on the bottom is a very cheap gel pen of Chinese origin. The production for these babies numbers in the billions, so they aren't rare by any measure. What I find interesting is how they made it appear to be so modern with its sleek design. I can make out a very well printed logo with "Huntington" printed on it. I know from experience that the rubber grip on the end provides very nice support and comfort even if it does tend to slip around after long use as it wears. Chances are you're gonna run out of ink long before that happens. I don't think it's a keeper ordinarily, but since it is an heirloom, might as well tuck it away for safe keeping.

    (y)
     
  4. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

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  5. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Ditto. Smart a$$. (And yes, the rubber does not age well. Yes, I know this.)
     
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  6. Homunculi

    Homunculi Monkey++

    This is the .32 the fist pic is the pistol I need identified

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  7. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    I do not believe that is the original fire control mechanism. The trigger, trigger guard and hammer should be plated just like the frame. That is not critical from any practical standpoint, but does again point up the need for a good smith to look it over.
     
  8. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    Looks like an Iver/Johnson to me...the top break mechanism, ejector pawl, contour of the barrel....all seem right.
     
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  9. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Both IJ and H&R made very similar models of the same looking top break. The certain feature that differentiates them for me is that IJ has an owl's head on the grips where these have something else in that place (not to mention the clear mfrs' marks.) Plus, IJ, H&R (and others) used the same basic top break design. While snooping around you can find foreign made copies, but they can usually be spotted readily.
     
  10. Homunculi

    Homunculi Monkey++

    Got the little one identified .. Belgian velo dog pistol .25 cal made to defend bike riders in Germany .. designed to shoot cork or pepper rounds .. made between 1902 and 1940 .. ,, cool little thing but the firing mech is broken inside the grip .. the .32 was made between 1899 and 1904 according to the serial numbers need to find .32 black powder rounds.. but my father had .32 auto rounds with it and said he was firing it
     
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  11. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Good find. It is pictured here as well.
    Velo-dog - Wikipedia
    Caliber is still in question? Eyeballing a corroded and used up 22 could pass for 25.
     
  12. Bishop

    Bishop Monkey+++

    Looks s like a old H+R or even a Sears there were a lot of the old 32s made in the early 1900s
     
  13. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    found this image of a folding trigger .25 acp revolver; it's Belgian made and one on an auction site is bidding at $199.00 right now. folding trigger .25 acp revolver.
     
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  14. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

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  15. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    thanks @ghrit :)

    early ones are proprietary 5.75mm

    later ones could be .22LR or .25ACP

    :)
     
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