New camo idea for firearms...

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by dragonfly, Aug 11, 2010.


  1. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    A lot of people don't want to "paint' their firearms for obvious reasons ( their babies!)..
    I am working on a new-old idea.
    A "wrap" made of pre-camo'd netting that can be tightly coiled around the stocks and barrels, held in place by elastic.
    I made one big enough to wrap a Moison-Nagant rifle, and cut and sewed together elastic bands, to hold everything in place.....
    I'm waiting for the elastic bands to dry, as it looked strange with the bands being white, so I dyed them dark brown.
    I tired a number of ideas and found that almosty any fabric touching the stock and barrel is slippery, so much so, I could not hold the rifle up long enough to aim it!
    I found that by wrapping the entire thing in the netting, makes it not only easier to hold, it's "slip-proof" now!
    Only took 2 pieces to do, and they are separated only by the bolt/action of the rifle. The front and rear sights are uncovered, but the camo technique makes them pretty hard to see.....
    The netting was bought at walmart, 54 inch wide by 12 feet long for $14.95. ( I can do a lot with that much!)
     
  2. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Watch for heat, peeling off melted plastic could be problematic. Other than that, the idea makes sense, the more so if you wrap it loosely so the outline is even more fuzzy.
     
  3. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    actually in high humidity areas any cloth touching blued metal of a gun for any considerable period of time will cause rust. watch them closely. I think I would rather paint.
     
  4. Hispeedal2

    Hispeedal2 Nay Sayer


    I have a bit of first hand experience with cloth rusting blued and even parked firearms. I guess that's one reason why I looked towards KG Gun Kote as a finish. This AR is an experiment. When I get it back, I will decide if it's worth the investment.

    Blueing really is a terrible finish for a working gun.
     
  5. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    I have a H&K SL-7 semi auto rifle in .308, back in 1985 or so I had this weapon sent to Armoloy of Texas after reading the rave reviews of their product by the Alaskain Fish and Game (many if not all of their people who work the coastal areas and Kodiak Island have used this product for many years in that saltwater environment to protect their weapons and increase their useful life). The Armoloy process is still available, and is an excellent care free finish for firearms. Mine still looks like new. Check them out at this link.
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    Firearms Applications
     
  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Indeed. And I can't wait either!
     
  7. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    I have to look at the netting again...I thinks it's a nylon mix...not very absorbent, but NOW, I'm checking that out!
    Glad you guys mentioned this !
    That would be a nightmare to have an absorbent cloth against metal....especially in nearly any real humidity!
    I scanned the container/packaging...from Remington, 100% polyester....
    Is that good or bad?
    scan0005. scan0006.
     
  8. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    LOL...now, what's with all that painting, knitting, netting stuff? Next thing, you'll be doing sweaters and socks... >:)

    (Who's provoking? Me?...Naaahhh...)
     
  9. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Polyester is fine but it can still hold moisture for extended periods if it gets soaked. You know, if I had the energy to try it, I would look into using some clear epoxy and just cementing the poly fiber to the metal of the gun permanently, almost like building up a fiberglass panel (using a squeegee or roller). The only trouble I can foresee is the barrel heating up and causing advanced aging and atrophy of the material and binding.
     
  10. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Why not get a gun sock and poke appropriate holes in it for muzzle, trigger and the loading and ejection ports? Paint it anyway you want, just don't store the gun in it.
     
  11. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    How about this?
    F0000492.
     
  12. Hispeedal2

    Hispeedal2 Nay Sayer


    Interesting finish, but I read this:
    A lot of aluminum is used in firearms these days. Think about AR receivers, magazines, sights, frames, receivers, etc. Aluminum is a lot slower at oxidizing, but it does oxidize.
     
  13. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    You are absolutely correct, and I wasn't aware of the aluminum problem. My relatively rare H&K SL-7, which is a very sweet shooting dependable semi auto rifle is all steel and wood except for 2 rubbery plastic pieces, the trigger guard, and the pull on the charging handle. It was a blue steel firearm, and stainless is what I really need for where I live. I have been very satisfied with the Armoloy satin hard chrome finish.
     
  14. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    I don't like plastic boobs on my women, and I don't like colors on my weapons... :D
     
  15. Hispeedal2

    Hispeedal2 Nay Sayer

    What I did find interesting was the fact that they have a bore treatment. For all those non-military rifles that aren't chrome lined, think of the possibilities. I would take a hunting rifle and have them treat the bore. You could also have them treat the rest of the rifle. Mac will do individual parts. You could have him do all the aluminum parts. Just thinking out loud.
     
  16. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    Well I agree with 1/2 of your statement. Maybe, even more when you consider I see no great reason to mess with firearms not intended for possible combat usage. But, for survival situations, I don't intend to wear blaze orange. I intend to do everything I can to blend in and disappear. To me it just makes sense to give your battle rifle a camo finish. Black, Stainless, and Shiny wood just doesn't get it done. It stands out! JMHO
     
  17. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    Sure...no one wants to draw attention, but since the weapons are black, I'd just give them a quick rub with finest sand paper, so they don't reflect light...like a mirror. If I'm in ambush, I don't think matte black would be spotted...even shiny black...proven in YU wars...NONE of the guns used were camo...
     
  18. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    To each his own.[beer]
     
  19. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    AMEN!... [beer]
     
  20. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    I looked after having read a lot of articles on camo, and by golly, with a minor exception, they were all right. ( to a degree)
    There is little to any BLACK in nature....
    Sure, there are blackbirds, crows, and a few other beasts with black,....
    But unles it's nighttime, black really does stick out, like a sore thumb.
    Even with a full moon, there are various shades of grays...Not what I had expected. Now my rifles that have those laminated stocks really stick out, just like the stainless barrels and those cutesy "fire sights".
    As for the moisture problem with the netting, I think I found the solution, just waiting for the netting to dry out......I sprayed the "wrapping" strips ( both sides) with the matte clear coat by Krylon. That should keep any moisutre from accumulating, especially next to the metal...
    I'll do a weight test, dry then soaking for 24 hours in room temp water to see if it retains any water ( of course I'll shake the netting out just before I weigh it, to remove any water droplets trapped in the pores....)
     
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