New Faster Bullet?

I thought energy was mass * velocity squared, not mass * velocity? I say make the aerodynamic issue a moot point by stuffing the cavity with pork....

As for me I'm sticking with Red Dots for pistol, but only where I can't have a rifle.

 

Well Hell
This thread is like making love to an inflatable love doll
Something is just missing?

 

Thanks boys for all the input. It looked weird to me but I'm not an expert on physics or bullets! an interesting discussion.

 

whatever you think @ghrit and of course we can always let it ride and see if someone wants to test the theory =)

 

If i still worked in a machine shop, i would. I don't have access to those toys anymore. (I spent a few years building custom drivelines, machining any parts we needed.)

 

With the aerodynamics I can't see it as an advantage , supersonic I can see no value , Trans sonic I can see lots of unstable forces ,
Sub sonic I hear a whistle & if it has been stuffed , then , then , then Porky says thuwap .

Sloth

 

The difference would have to be significant to be worth the investment , but being made from strait copper their practicality is nominal.
One reason I chose the 17 HMR over the .22 is the difference from 1200 FPS and 2550 FPS and a much tighter pattern.
What it lacks in mass it makes up for in accuracy and expansion/fragmentation .
Say the squirrel is the target and more importantly food.
The .22 generally your going to choose the larger target body mass. but more eatable flesh is destroyed .
The 17 HMR can accomplish head shots at greater distances meaning more available shots and less food lost.
Though ammo cost is 2x or more than .22 ,I see being able to hunt at greater distances a significant advantage.
I zero my Marlin at 200 yards. what do you zero your .22 at ?
If this new ammo provided a similar result I would be interested my self , When it becomes available I may give it a try , but that may never happen. sadly.

 

If someone can find and send me some of these bullets, I'd be happy to experiment with some different loads and publish some data using my chronograph and different target media. Personally the I think the ports would make the bullet unstable and unsuitable for any level of precision accuracy.

 

The laws of economics are as demanding as the laws of physics. If the website is up for sale, and there is no good news/recent news, the bullet has already failed in the marketplace.

That usually means it didn't perform as well as expected. Or it couldn't be manufactured economically. Or legal issues cropped up.

Whatever the reason, it's a non-bullet by now.

 

Well Kellory put it exactly right. I have SERIOUS doubts about how well, or if, they will work, but until I see some actual tests I will not say they are bad. And yes, I think Visu is exactly right, but neither of us knows for sure.

 

How do you lose pressure when bullet is in barrel ? the pressure has no where to go but to push bullet out of barrel......

 

You are right, but immediately upon exit I do believe you would lose the backpressure quicker than a conventional bullet

 

forgive a novice question, but wouldn't the projectile already have reached its maximum velocity?

 

With rifling variations one gun to another and not knowing the depth of the bullet cut in each ,the holes in the bullets will not match the same every time how they ride in the rifling.
Being a relatively lite bullet every other factor that can alter flight normally ,might well have even more effect on this Swiss cheese design.

 

That bullet would be illegal any ways. Pistol bullets can not be manufactured for use in a pistol with more than 25% of the bullets mass made from jacket material such as brass, bronze or copper.
Unless the atf gives them a waver and with what happened to barns solids I am going to say that's a no.

 

I'd hazard a guess, and suggest that this ammunition has been in law enforcement use for some time!. The wobbly ballistics could account for the collateral injuries caused to bystanders when the LEO missed perps

It seems to me that the holes are positioned in front of the seal, so would be venting gasses out of the holes into the rifling ahead of the seal. I doubt that it would be much of a target round....but as a round for an assassin in a throw away Liberator FP-45 Liberator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia or zip gun, it might have some potential, depending on what toxic substance one might theoretically fill it with.

 

Bacon, fill it with bacon.