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New Ruger-57 in 5.7x28mm. and Ruger LCP II “Lite Rack” in .22 Long Rifle Maybe a 5.7 Carbine Soon!

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by HK_User, Jan 3, 2020.


  1. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey Site Supporter

    Ruger is launching two new pistols that are guaranteed to be crowd-pleasers, the Ruger LCP II “Lite Rack” in .22 Long Rifle and the Ruger-57 in 5.7x28mm. Both sport modern features and good pricing thanks to Ruger’s proven manufacturing methods.

    The LCP II in .22LR is a light and compact kit gun that’s great for training and just having fun with in the greater outdoors while the Ruger-57 is a fun gun that also stands to be a solid pistol for personal protection.

    The LCP II is Ruger’s updated micro-compact single-stack pistol for everyday carry and backup. Chambered for .22 Long Rifle the rimfire version may not be as suited for self-defense compared to centerfire LCPs, but it is very easy to shoot and light enough to take anywhere for anything.

    The Ruger-57 is a bigger departure for the company. Chambered for 5.7x28mm, this pistol is chasing the limited FN Five-Seven market that only hosts a handful of competitors.

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    The LCP II .22 is a pocketable rimfire pistol for everyday plinking. (Photo: Ruger)
    And while the LCP II .22 is tiny, at just 11 ounces unloaded with a 2.75-inch barrel and an overall size of 5.2 inches long, 4 inches tall and .8 inches wide, the Ruger-57 is a full-size handgun weighing in at just under 25 ounces unloaded with a 5-inch barrel and an overall size of 8.6 inches long, 5.6 inches tall and 1.2 inches wide.

    Both have good capacities for what they are. The LCP II .22 still manages to offer a 10+1-round capacity even with its short grip while the Ruger-57 has a standard magazine capacity of 20 rounds, with 10-round mags available for restricted markets.

    And both have good prices. Ruger set the suggested retail price for the LCP II .22 at $349 and the Ruger-57 at $799. Real-world and online pricing will be lower, although possibly not by as much as you typically see with Ruger products. Both of these guns will be very popular.

    Ruger is using its glass-filled polymer for the grip frames of both pistols with steel slides, barrels and internal components. The LCP II .22 has a blue oxide finish on the slide with a satin stainless finish on the barrel. The Ruger-57 has a nitride barrel and a black oxide slide.

    Both guns have manual thumb safeties and while the LCP II .22 uses a single left-side thumb safety for right-handed shooting, the Ruger-57 has enlarged ambidextrous thumb safeties on its frame. They also both use passive trigger safeties and the LCP II .22 also employs a magazine disconnect.

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    The Ruger-57 has interchangeable sights with a fiber-optic front sight and fully-adjustable rear sight. It also has a full-length accessory rail for lights and laser sights. The LCP II .22 has fixed serrated sights milled into the slide.

    Some of the features unique to the LCP II .22 include a tilting barrel blowback operation, and slide and recoil spring contours designed to make it easy to rack even for kids and novice shooters. It comes with one magazine and a magazine loading tool. It’s also compatible with standard LCP II accessories other than magazines.

    The Ruger-57 comes with two magazines, two 20-rounders or two 10-rounders depending on the model. “The Ruger-57 is destined to become one of America’s favorite handguns,” said Ruger President and CEO Chris Killoy. “This pistol is soft-shooting, accurate, powerful and just plain fun to shoot.”

    One thing’s for sure, and it’s that going into 2020, a lot of shooters are going to want to pick up one new Ruger or another eventually. And if it’s a Ruger-57, could there be a Ruger-57 carbine in the works, too?

    For more information visit Ruger.com.

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  2. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Ruger57 appears to be lacking a threaded barrel.
     
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  3. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey Site Supporter

    First release is what you are looking at.
     
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  4. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    The SR-22 is a fun little pocket packer already.
     
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  5. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe







    Ammo cost 3x 9mm
    Size - about that of a full sized Govt model 1911
    SA only
    hammer fired vice striker
    mass wive muzzle blast al la Mosin M-44

    Still good to see a new shooter

    Lighter than a 45 ACP (say a Kimber)
    20 rounds vs 8 or 9 in a 45 ACP
    Said to penetrate soft body armor (look for gun banners go push this for Politicize safety)
    -Bangers locally don't wear body armor but a heavy winter coat can stop a 38SPL....

    So, for me, this is a solution in search of a problem.
     
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  6. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    Anybody reload 5.7?

    I've saved it for years, but hear that it's got a slippery coating on it that's necessary to get it to function in some firearms.

    I think a centerfire Cricket single shot would be fun, but I shoot a Krag-Hornet, so I tend toward odd combinations.
     
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  7. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey Site Supporter

    My comparison.

    Ammo cost 3x 9mm
    Not exactly as the actual cost for equal rated ammo is about the same if you want quality HP.
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    Product Code: 55915

    Federal V-Max 5.7mmX28mm 40 GR V-Max 50 Bx/ 40 Cs

    UPC: 818513003612

    $24.99


    Size - about that of a full sized Govt model 1911
    @ half the weight
    .
    SA only
    Which is fine for Mil Battle Pistol,

    hammer fired vice striker
    Best part of that the hammer is covered and protected.

    mass wive muzzle blast al la Mosin M-44
    I Don't know about that.

    Still good to see a new shooter
    No doubt.


    20 rounds vs 8 or 9 in a 45 ACP
    At 1/3 the weight

    Said to penetrate soft body armor (look for gun banners go push this for Politicize safety)

    The mags are polymer and 3 mags equals 60 rounds.


    You can hold 400 rounds in your hand 8 boxes of 50 each.

    For me the weight reduction is worth the difference for a EDC.
     
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  8. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey Site Supporter

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  9. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I do.
    Soon I will be working on subsonic 55gr rounds.
     
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  10. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey Site Supporter

    Suggested load?
     
  11. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    You have an adjustable gas block?
     
  12. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    It's not gas operated.

    I will try about 4gr of hs-6 and no less than 3.4gr could be up to 4.4gr but they're supersonic at 4.4gr. With a m193 or 55gr match HP.
    If you are not going to use a silencer you can use 62gr with a different charge.
     
  13. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    Sounds like there might be some challenges in maintaining bullet stability with the heavier (longer) bullet. Greenhill and Miller will be names you get to know real quick when bullets start making oblong holes in the target.
     
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  14. wideym

    wideym Monkey+++

    The Ruger 57 is going to fall flat, while the 22lr version will probably sell decently. Most shops don't carry 5.7 ammo or at least very little of it, and also very little variation in bullet types or weights. The 5.7 is a round that is dying off, like 6.5 Grendel, .50 Beowulf, and others. They do have their fans and will probably linger on for some time, but will not find commercial success they were hoping for.

    I will probably end up buying the Ruger 57 due to the fact that I already own a PS90 and 57 pistol already. They run decently with very little problems, but the controls operate differently than any other rifle or pistol I own and the AR57 I had ran like crap no matter what ammo or magazines I used. The PS90 and 57 pistol were designed for the 5.7 ammo and work well enough, but the only other guns I've seen use the round are the AR57 and a Masterpiece Arms Mac wannabe that jams more than it shoots.

    $800 MSRP for a Ruger 57 is a bit steep. If they retail for around $600 then I can see them selling better, but not enough to justify continued manufacturing them. At the gunstore I help out at, we haven't had a request for 5.7 ammo in over five years and even before then we rarely sold any of the ammo.
     
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  15. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Most of the ammo stores here have it. The big box stores like gander mountain, bass pro alway had it.
     
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  16. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    @OP4, do you have any issues with the reloaded 5.7 not being as slippery as the factory ammo? I tumble nearly all my brass, so I would be removing the coating completely, but I've heard that it's at least compromised during the reloading process. One fella is even experimenting with putting the loaded ammo on an old record player and spraying it with polyurethane to restore the original slipperiness.

    I'll stick with downsized bolt action novelty rifles if I fiddle with it at all, but it's an interesting alternative to the .22 Hornet.
     
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  17. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    If you just size it the coating doesn't appear to be effected by firing it once or twice.
    The coating should really only be necessary for delayed blow back guns like auto pistols and the p90. Gas operated and manual operated shouldn't need it.
     
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