If I may give an update on the fellow killed in Idaho.. This being my neck of the woods, the autopsy results on the dead hunter showed he died from a gunshot wound from his young friend.. This whole situation was avoidable in the first place.. The hunters miss identified the grizz as a black bear when they shot it the first time. Then they tracked it into the brush with poor field of vision, still unaware that they shot a grizzly.. Very sad situation and I'll wager BT could relate a lot more tales just like this one... That is why out of staters need guides..