NRA passes McCarthy Gun Control bill through US House!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by melbo, Jun 14, 2007.

  1. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    We are fools.

    From an e-mail...

    NRA passes McCarthy Gun Control bill through US House!
    Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:33:05 -0600

    We warned you just a few days ago that the NRA was working with
    anti-gun forces to pass new gun control.

    Today, far sooner than we would have imagined, the bill passed in the
    US House, with almost no notice and no recorded vote.

    HR 297 was quickly morphed into a new bill, HR 2640 (by notorious
    anti-gunner Carolyn McCarthy) and passed on a voice vote,
    with so little notice that the most pro-gun members of Congress didn't
    know it was on the agenda until early in the morning
    -- when the NRA actively lobbied their offices to pass the largest gun
    control move since the 1994 Assault Weapons ban.

    (Go to for
    news story)

    The bill gives the Federal Government vast new access to people's
    mental health records and opens the door for expanded
    abuse of power, delays and denials of firearms purchases.

    The bill purports to give people a chance to have their names removed
    from the no-buy list, but only at great personal
    expense... with no guarantee of success.

    If the past is any indication, purchasing a firearm is about to become
    a lot more complicated.

    Keep in mind that for years the ATF has been forbidden from doing any
    investigations to expunge records and return people's
    gun rights.

    Now, with the help of the NRA, even more restrictions are being

    Of course, unlike a "crime," "mental illness" is a very subjective

    As Corey Graff from Wisconsin Gun Owners writes;

    "Since 1952, the American Psychiatry Association (APA) has utilized the
    Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental
    Disorders (DSM) as its standard for defining, diagnosing and treating
    mental health disorders.

    Since its first printing, the manual has undergone five revisions, the
    most recent being the DSM-IV, which was finalized in
    1994. Currently a fifth version is being prepared and is due out by

    Each new version contradicts the previous version; new authors with new
    perspectives and agendas write each new release.
    The standard keeps changing, shifting, sometimes radically so -- the
    result is that mental illness is never clearly or
    objectively defined. It is a moving target shaped by political and
    social pressures.

    Following controversy and protests from gay activists at APA annual
    conferences from 1970 to 1973, the seventh printing of
    the DSM-II, in 1974, no longer listed homosexuality as a category of
    disorder. After talks led by the psychiatrist Robert
    Spitzer, who had been involved in the DSM-II development committee, a
    vote by the APA trustees in 1973, confirmed by the
    wider APA membership in 1974, replaced the diagnosis with a milder
    category of "sexual orientation disturbance."

    In today's politically correct climate, the most recent version of the
    DSM-IV contains "no reference to homosexuality."

    Which DSM was correct or were both wrong? One can easily see the danger
    this contradiction raises if these diagnoses were
    synced up with a gun owner database that acts as an automated judge,
    jury and executioner for the gun buyer.

    Such variance also calls into question the credibility of those who
    define mental illness.

    Psychiatrists can't even agree amongst themselves over a relatively
    short period of time on how to precisely define mental
    illness on any given issue. Thirty years ago no one heard the term
    "attention deficit disorder" or "post-traumatic stress
    disorder" -- today diagnoses for these new mental illnesses are

    We believe the next step -- if you don't think there's a "next step"
    you undoubtedly fit the description of mentally
    deranged -- is to require information and deny firearms purchases for
    anyone who has ever taken an anti-depressant (the
    estimates for the number of young adults in America who have, at one
    time, taken these anti-depressant drugs is
    staggering). If that happens, a large portion of a number of
    generations in America will be stripped of their Second
    Amendment rights.

    The bottom line: If NICS is expanded, expect entire groups to be denied
    their right to purchase a firearm.

    Legislation like this paints with a broad brush and will disarm many
    good people who should be able to buy handguns. One
    such group is veterans.

    "[NICS Expansion] could have a significant impact on American
    servicemen," wrote Gun Owners of America recently,
    "especially those returning from combat situations and who seek some
    type of psychiatric care.

    Often, veterans who have suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder
    have been deemed as mentally 'incompetent' and are
    prohibited from owning guns under 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(4). Records of those
    instances certainly exist, and, in 1999, the
    Department of Veterans Administration turned over 90,000 names of
    veterans to the FBI for inclusion into the NICS
    background check system."

    Once again, the NRA has colluded with anti-gunners to pass new gun
    control and tell gun owners it's good for them.

    They did so when the Brady Insta-Check Registration system was passed
    into law (more on that at ), and now they're attempting to
    strengthen that gun control... and weakened our rights.

    According to "Advocates of House-passed legislation say it
    likely would have prevented the gunman, Seung-Hui Cho,
    from buying a firearm because of his history of mental illness." But
    this is, of course, nonsense. The Brady law has not
    kept criminals from getting guns and won't stop madmen from getting
    them either. But it might very well stop you.

    To stop this in the Senate will mean fighting not only the anti-gunners
    in the Legislature, but America's biggest "gun
    lobby." We'll need all the help we can get. Please consider making
    whatever contribution you can to RMGO by going here:

    Dudley Brown
    Executive Director

    Direct Office Line 970-842-3006
    Toll-free line 888-874-3006
    Mobile Phone 970-380-3006

    Rocky Mountain Gun Owners
    Colorado's Largest Gun Rights Organization
    PO Box 3006
    Brush, Colorado 80723
    Phone (888) 874-3006
    Fax Line (202) 351-0528
  2. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I resigned my life-membership after Hurricane Katrina and the NRA's lack of activity until enough threatened to resign that they finally took credit for the actual work the GOA was doing.
    The NRA was essentially a shooting organization that got forced into a lobbying position after LBJ shoved the 68 GCA down our throats and has tried to support rights of gun-owners since then in an active political roll but just like the Republican Party (remember small federal government?) got taken over by power-hungry RINOs, the NRA has more vested interest in maintaining their political funding than actually protecting the rights of their members.
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