NY Gun Confiscation Underway – Citizens Told to Turn in Pistol Owner ID & Firearms

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  1. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Gun-Confiscation.
    Gun Confiscation​

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    Manasquan, NJ --(Ammoland.com)- Remember all those who denied that firearms confiscation as a result of New York’s new gun laws was too “insane” to even consider?
    That it was strictly in the realm of paranoid conspiracy theorists and the “it cant happen here crowd”?
    Those were and remain some of the standard replies to anyone who even thought about the possibility, let alone gave voice to it, despite the fact that Gov Cuomo and numerous other officials made public comments about such a plan, as I discussed in my article “Feinstein & Cuomo Admit Planning Australian Style Government Gun Buy Back” .
    Elected Officials, the media, various Gun Control Groups and their zealous forced disarmament supporters, even some firearms owners themselves all insisted it was to crazy to even consider.
    There’s just one huge problem it is happening now in New York State!
    It seems those that tried desperately to warn of such an insidious plot had hit the bullseye with their warnings after all. News came from multiple NY State based firearms enthusiast websites late Friday that confiscations of Pistol Owner ID Cards, as well as firearms and accessories has commenced in NY under the provisions of the horribly flawed, draconian and blatantly unconstitutional NY SAFE Act.

    Those folks having their weapons and FID cards confiscated have been discovered to have been prescribed multiple different types of psychotropic drugs, such as those for Depression or Anxiety. These are known as SSRI ( Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) class drugs and have the potential to cause serious and adverse side effects, something I wrote about extensively last week in an article that went viral in days and caused multiple Anti Gun and Progressive News Groups to initiate a concentrated denial of service hacker attack against Ammoland Shooting Sports News (see Daily KOS ” Keeping Track Of The RKBA Crowd” Daily Kos: Keeping track of the RKBA crowd), in an effort to keep the information from the public.
    From NY http://tiny.cc/nyfirearms
    “John Doe, an upstanding professional with no outstanding criminal convictions and no history of violent action received a letter from the Pistol Permit Department informing him that his license was immediately revoked upon information that he was seeing a therapist for anxiety and had been prescribed an anxiety drug. He was never suicidal, never violent, and has no criminal history. The New York State Department of Health is apparently conducting a search of medical records to determine who is being treated for anxiety drugs and using this as a basis for handgun license revocation.
    Those are the facts. Nothing more, nothing less.
    Now, before anyone trots out the old saw about how this is nothing more then a paranoid, unsubstantiated rumor on a “gun nuts” internet forum. I spoke to the Attorney of Record in this matter on the phone this morning and he confirmed that the above snippet is accurate and these cases are happening!

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    James Tresmond Esq confirmed in our conversation that the above mentioned case is occurring in Erie County NY, it is his client that has been effected, and as yet unknown sources have seen fit to take it upon themselves to share confidential medical records with NY State Officials without authorization, a massive HIPPA violation.
    It seems these supposedly confidential records are then compared against a list of known NY pistol license holders and letters are sent out demanding their Pistol Owner ID Cards be surrendered, as well as any firearms and accessories.
    Here is a link to the Attorney of Record on this case, Jim Tresmond, giving a radio interview on the Tom Bauerle Show on WBEN 930AM/107.7 FM:
    http://www.wben.com/topic/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=6319907
    This is an unprecedented violation of a Citizens 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment RIGHTS, brought to fruition by power and control hungry tyrants holding elected office who swore an Oath to uphold and defend the very rights they are now actively stripping from their constituents.
    Moreover, the confiscation efforts underway in NY State have had another, albeit unintended effect. By undertaking this course of action, those in power have inadvertently pulled back the curtain on something they have suppressed from the Citizens for far to long, leaving them with precious little wiggle room to explain away their actions.
    • Either they are acknowledging that there is in fact some sort of little reported link between the prescribing of psychotropic drugs and violent behavior, thus they are somehow, at least in their own minds “justified” in their actions to preempt someone from violence.
    • Or, this is nothing more then a backdoor confiscation effort and massive abuse of governmental power unleashed on innocent Citizens.
    Those are the only two possible explanations.
    If anyone still feels some level of doubt regarding the veracity of this story, Attorney Tresmond welcomes anyone to visit his website tresmondlaw.com, Facebook page ( James Tresmond | Facebook ), or send an email to TresmondLaw@gmail.com.
    Mr Tresmond asks that those making inquiries be mindful and respectful of the fact that they have been deluged with inquiries in recent days and therefore a personal reply may be delayed or impossible due to the volume.
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    Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/04/new-york-gun-confiscation-underway/#ixzz2Q0WSBWDE
     
  2. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Glad I hate pills and needles. Now when will they track alcohol [gone]
     
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  3. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    I find it extremely interesting that they are recognizing SSRI's drugs.
     
  4. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Sounds like it is time, for these New York Residents, to get these cases into Federal District Court, and sue the PANTS OFF these state Officials for Civil Rights Violations, of their Constitutional Rights, and get a Federal Restraining Order issued, to put this State Statue, in abeyance, until the Federal Suit is concluded.
     
  5. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    In Pennsylvania, all alcohol has to be purchased from state distributors, and a swipe of a valid license is also required for liquor.

    I usually hear talk about it moving away from this setup, and in some areas, certain stores have recently been able to sell some alcohol. But, they still must comply with state demands by the swipe of the license...

    It's such a corrupt, mafia system it really is sickening. Most folks are quite accustomed to it, and they don't mind or even understand.

    I remember a "dry county" in Texas...I found that to be very strange.
     
  6. DarkLight

    DarkLight I self identify as a Blackhawk Attack Helicopter! Site Supporter

    So, the exchange goes like this:

    1 - Letter received.
    2 - Letter ignored.
    3 - Additional letter sent and received (probably sent registered).
    4 - Attorney contacted.
    4a - Instruct State that all future contact is to go through attorney as there is going to be pending litigation at the Federal Appellate level.
    4b - Include a politely worded "No" in previous correspondence.
    5 - Immediately file suit in Federal Court.
    6 - Get a restraining order against the law enforcement division enforcing the confiscation.
    7 - Go on about your daily life.
     
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  7. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Yep, that is EXACTLY, how it should GO....
     
  8. NotSoSneaky

    NotSoSneaky former supporter

    It would be easier and more effective to just shoot them.

    [OO] Did I just say that ? [eek3]

    WTH I'm prolly on more than one list anyway. [tongue]
     
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  9. Icefoot

    Icefoot Monkey+

    I would add to Darklight's list:

    - File criminal charges against all parties involved in the illegal transfer of medical information.
    - File criminal charges against the Gov Coumo and all the state legislators who voted for the gun bill that prompted this.

    Criminal charges because the HIPPA violation as well as the blatant Constitutional violations were not accidental or inadvertent ones. It was ALL premeditated, intentional, and willful action. Throw the rotten lot into prison for a few years. And if there is no room in prison, set free some of the non-violent offenders who ended up there because some do gooder got a law passed that made a criminal out of an otherwise peaceful law abiding citizen.
     
  10. DarkLight

    DarkLight I self identify as a Blackhawk Attack Helicopter! Site Supporter

    All politicians should be limited to (and forced to serve) two terms anyway, one term in office followed by one in jail!
     
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