Fourth Amendment NYPD lose in Federal Court, on "Stop & Frisk"

Discussion in 'Bill of Rights' started by BTPost, Aug 12, 2013.

  1. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Stop-and-Frisk Practice Violated Rights, Judge Rules
    In a repudiation of a major element in the Bloomberg administration’s crime-fighting legacy, a federal judge has found that the stop-and-frisk tactics of the New York Police Department violated the constitutional rights of minorities in New York, and called for a federal monitor to oversee broad reforms.

    In a decision issued on Monday, the judge, Shira A. Scheindlin, ruled that police officers have for years been systematically stopping innocent people in the street without any objective reason to suspect them of wrongdoing. Officers often frisked these people, usually young minority men, for weapons or searched their pockets for contraband, like drugs, before letting them go, according to the 195-page decision.
    These stop-and-frisk episodes, which soared in number over the last decade as crime continued to decline, demonstrated a widespread disregard for the Fourth Amendment, which protects against unreasonable searches and seizures by the government, according to the ruling. It also found violations with the 14th Amendment’s equal protection clause.
    Judge Scheindlin found that the city “adopted a policy of indirect racial profiling by targeting racially defined groups for stops based on local crime suspect data.” She rejected the city’s arguments that more stops happened in minority neighborhoods solely because those happened to have high-crime rates.
    “I also conclude that the city’s highest officials have turned a blind eye to the evidence that officers are conducting stops in a racially discriminatory manner,” she wrote.
    Noting that the Supreme Court had long ago ruled that stop-and-frisks were constitutionally permissible under certain conditions, the judge stressed that she was “not ordering an end to the practice of stop-and-frisk. The purpose of the remedies addressed in this opinion is to ensure that the practice is carried out in a manner that protects the rights and liberties of all New Yorkers, while still providing much needed police protection.”
    City officials did not immediately comment on the ruling, or on whether they planned to appeal. Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg scheduled a news conference at 1 p.m. to discuss the decision.
    To fix the constitutional violations, the judge designated an outside lawyer, Peter L. Zimroth, to monitor the Police Department’s compliance with the Constitution.
    Judge Scheindlin also ordered a number of other remedies, including a pilot program in which officers in at least five precincts across the city will wear body-worn cameras in an effort to record street encounters. She also ordered a “joint remedial process” — in essence, a series of community meetings — to solicit public input on how to reform stop-and-frisk.
    The decision to install Mr. Zimroth, a partner in the New York office of Arnold & Porter LLP, and a former corporation counsel and prosecutor in the Manhattan district attorney’s office, will leave the department under a degree of judicial control that is certain to shape the policing strategies under the next mayor.
    Relying on a complex statistical analysis presented at trial, Judge Scheindlin found that the racial composition of a census tract played a role in predicting how many stops would occur.
    She emphasized what she called the “human toll of unconstitutional stops,” noting that some of the plaintiffs testified that their encounters with the police left them feeling that they did not belong in certain areas of the cities. She characterized each stop as “a demeaning and humiliating experience.”
    “No one should live in fear of being stopped whenever he leaves his home to go about the activities of daily life,” the judge wrote. During police stops, she found, blacks and Hispanics “were more likely to be subjected to the use of force than whites, despite the fact that whites are more likely to be found with weapons or contraband.”
    The ruling, in Floyd v. City of New York, follows a two-month nonjury trial in Federal District Court in Manhattan earlier this year over the department’s stop-and-frisk practices.
    Judge Scheindlin heard testimony from about a dozen black or biracial men and a woman who described being stopped, and she heard from statistical experts who offered their conclusions based on police paperwork describing some 4.43 million stops between 2004 and mid-2012. Numerous police officers and commanders testified as well, typically defending the legality of stops and saying they were made only when officers reasonably suspected criminality was afoot.
    While the Supreme Court has long recognized the right of police officers to briefly stop and investigate people who are behaving suspiciously, Judge Scheindlin found that the New York police had overstepped that authority. She found that officers were too quick to deem as suspicious behavior that was perfectly innocent, in effect watering down the legal standard required for a stop.
    “Blacks are likely targeted for stops based on a lesser degree of objectively founded suspicion than whites,” she wrote.
    She noted that about 88 percent of the stops result in the police letting the person go without an arrest or ticket, a percentage so high, she said, that it suggests there was not a credible suspicion to suspect the person of criminality in the first place.
  2. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    It's about time these unconstitutional activities are stopped, good for her!!!

    I'm going to get some flack for this, but I don't understand why they can violate your 4A and have roadside sobriety check points? We need a judge like her to take a serious look at this.
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  3. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King |RIP 11-4-2017

    So it is OK to ignore the 4th amendment as long as the criteria for doing so is not racial...

    Stop and frisk all the white grandmothers and grandfathers you wish, but doing so to young black males is a violation of their constitutional rights. At least it is refreshing that one federal judge has HEARD of the constitution, even though he (She? What kind of a name is Shira anyway) seems to believe it only protects the rights of minorities.
  4. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Don't give them any ideas because we already have the TSA for that, lol. Wait a minute, that's not funny!
  5. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Bloomie is going to appeal it up to where he get's an opinion that backs the action continuing....... This will drag on for years......
  6. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

  7. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    "Mayor Michael Bloomberg, within hours of the decision, vowed to appeal. He said at a news conference Monday that the judge displayed a "disturbing disregard" for the "good intentions" of police officers."

    The road to h@ll is paved with "good intentions".
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  8. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Agree with you Kellory about the road to hell. I just have to ask what the "good intentions" are that the police are trying to accomplish? I would say brainwashing the people for a police state.
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  9. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    I care not a bit, for what they intend to do. I try to judge people by their actions, and their actions are wrong.:(
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  10. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Now, tell me what is contradictory about the above.

    Regardless, even if they play this race card and it keeps the police off the backs of citizens, it's a good thing. Now, holding them to it is another ball of wax.

    FREE SOVEREIGN CITIZEN never even enters the equation these days. It's always "minority" this and "discrimination" that. Nothing ever changes.
  11. Silversnake

    Silversnake Silverback

    Wasting the treasure of the citizens of New York. I'm sure friends of his (or those he otherwise identifies with) will be paid handsomely to represent both sides. The issue is never really the issue.
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