Obama: Delusion or something else up his sleeve.

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by fortunateson, May 20, 2010.

  1. fortunateson

    fortunateson I hate Illinois Nazis!

    I've been watching the moves this guy has been making in less than a year and a half in office, he's managed to alienate his base and most of the US population.

    He's come up against the will of the people with the healthcare bill, and I'd say that even supporters have gotten a chill from the way he forced it through.

    Now it's immigration. Clearly most of the US is against an open border policy, yet he's suing to keep porous borders intact - even to the violation of Federal law!

    Add to that TARP, spending issues, demagoguery of this oil spill.

    Anyway all this has me thinking - "What's going on in his head?"

    1. He's drunk with delusion, thinks he's the messiah and is WAY out of touch with the people.

    2. He doesn't care because he has a plan to "close the barn door" and lock himself and the democrats in power forever (a la Chancellor Hitler).

    3. He's following NWO orders and just trying to put a good face on it.

    What do you think? Is there a #4 I'm missing?
  2. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    My vote is No. 1. He's been told, nay, fluffed up by the self-styled downtrodden (as well as the PTB) that he IS going to save them, and he believes it. Out of touch? Never was IN touch except for the organizing that he did (if any, I haven't seen any on record) and then abandoned. The funny part (if you can call it that) is that those that hold him up will be the first to go under. Also, the pols that drank the kool aide are feeling the heat, so it might not happen if enough of them get doused with tea.

    No. 2 is not going to happen, the citizenry has taken the scales off their eyes. He doesn't care anyway.

    No. 3 is conspiracy theory, and I for (maybe only) one can't get into that.
  3. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    I am of mixed feelings about the whole thing. #1 is a given. #2 I also doubt will ever come to pass. Bobo no longer has near the support he had on 20 January 2009. Hitler had the support of the German people much longer than Bobo. I suspect the end game is not far off. Quite frankly the situation hit intolerable for me a long time ago. I am ready for real change. Change that I can accept. The only question is; will it be peaceful or violence driven change.
  4. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    I personally say - "All the above!"
    Mostly Numba One, but some parts of Two and Three too. No way this unknown barstage got this high in power so quick without MAJOR behind-the-scenes help. He is a PUPPET - but just WHO is pulling the kenyan's strings...?
  5. jungatheart

    jungatheart Beginner's Mind

    #4- He is mentally ill with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
  6. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    By Chuck Baldwin
    May 19, 2010

    People all over America are discussing freedom's future. In short, they are worried. In fact, many are actually talking about State secession. In coffee shops and cafes, and around dining room tables, millions of people are speaking favorably of states breaking away from the union. Not since the turn of the twentieth century have this many people thought (and spoken) this favorably about the prospect of a State (or group of states) exiting the union. In my mind, this is a good thing.

    Even many of those who oppose the prospect of secession understand the increasing tyrannical nature of the current central government in Washington, D.C., and that something must be done about it.

    The Merriam-Webster online dictionary defines tyranny as "1: oppressive power . . . 2: a government in which absolute power is vested in a single ruler . . . 3: a rigorous condition imposed by some outside agency or force . . . 4: a tyrannical act."

    Even a casual observer would have to conclude that most of the actions proceeding forth from DC today match at least Webster's 1st and 3rd definitions of tyranny. Besides, who would argue the advantage of the tyranny of an oligarchy over the tyranny of a monarchy? A tyranny of many cannot be distinguished from a tyranny of one in most cases--especially not by those poor souls who are at the point of the spear of Government's cruelties.

    The fact is, there is collusion between Big Government and Big Business (as each feeds and profits off the other) to strip the American people of their God-given liberties. Without a shadow of a doubt, had America's Founding Fathers not sagaciously cemented the Second Amendment into the US Constitution, the Jackboots would have marched over us years ago.

    That freedom-loving people are reaching a point of frustration--and even fury--is quite understandable. And State secession is, very properly, the last best option for freedomists to maintain fidelity to the principles of liberty. All of America's founders understood this--all of them! And millions of modern-day American patriots are just now beginning to become reacquainted with this great, historic doctrine.

    However, whether one subscribes to the doctrine of secession or not is quite immaterial. The breakup of the US is inevitable! Short of another Great Awakening, nothing can stop it. And given the spiritual deadness of most American churches these days, the prospect of a modern-day national revival seems remote at best.

    It is a historical fact that no empire can sustain itself. And America is more and more becoming a global empire. For the sake of simplicity, I ask readers to ponder this question: How can one sustain a global economy without global government to manage and control it? Answer: One can't.

    This is why elitists in politics, economics, and the military have been calling for global government for decades. People such as George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Tony Blair, Walter Cronkite, Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali, David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, Gideon Rachman, Warren Christopher, Walt Rostow, Richard Gardner, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Robert Pastor, et al. Furthermore, organizations such as the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Bilderbergers, and the Trilateral Commission are constantly promoting regional or global unification. Moreover, institutions such as the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the World Bank, the World Trade Organization (WTO), and, of course, the United Nations (UN) all contribute to the escalation of globalism.

    I have written two previous columns outlining much relevant information on this very real promotion of globalism. See them here and here .

    Therefore, it is safe to say that, for the most part, America's foreign policy is (and has been) controlled and manipulated by globalists. Accordingly, America's armed forces are used more and more as international policemen to patrol the streets of the world on behalf of this international cabal of merchants and politicians. The cover for this is the mantra of fighting an international "war on terrorism." But the real agenda is, keeping our troops fighting in perpetual war so that they might be available to the globalists at the UN and US State Department (not to mention countless "off the books" operations being run by the CIA and a host of other agencies) for the purpose of maintaining the "global economy" (and only God knows how many illegal enterprises).

    Perpetual war also allows the Machiavellians who desire to turn America into a police state to increasingly encroach upon constitutionally protected liberties by keeping the populace in a perpetual state of fear. After all, as long as our troops are "over there" fighting (and making) enemies, we will always need Big Brother to keep us safe "over here." And the only way he can do that is by putting us all in cages; but hey, it's for our own good, right?

    And, of course, this new "global force for good" must itself be reshaped into an image compatible with the political correctness of the New World Order. Hence, more and more women are being placed in combat units. In fact, females are now the fastest growing group of enlistees within the US armed forces. And for the first time in US history, women are now approved to serve aboard submarines. (I am sure submariners' wives are thrilled about this!)

    "How does flooding the US military with women fit into the scheme of the globalists?" you ask. Simple. By reducing the overall efficiency and effectiveness of our military forces, it requires them to be part of a "coalition" force. Come on, folks, figure it out: our troops are always part of some sort of global "coalition" army. They always serve in concert with NATO, or the UN, or at the behest of some other global entity.

    And please, I don't need readers to write me with great indignation, calling me "sexist." Get real! If women can serve in combat equally with men, why not have an all-female combat infantry division? How about an all-female tank division? Let's have an all-female Navy warship! What about an all-female Navy SEAL team or Army Special Forces team? If, then, women are inefficient in combat as a unit, they are equally inefficient in combat individually. Wise up, people! It is critical to the globalists controlling Washington politics that our military be integrated with foreign entities. Allowing the weaker vessels to dilute the warrior-strength of our combat units helps to accomplish this in spades!

    Folks, this new American empire is not sustainable. Mark it down: the American empire will follow every other notable empire of antiquity and collapse under its own weight. The signs are already ubiquitous.

    In its attempt to entice illegal aliens (a necessary component to the globalization of America) by providing them with almost complete and universal welfare benefits, the Empire has saddled the states with a monstrous debt and has planted the seeds for its own fragmentation.

    The American Southwest is a boiling caldron. Revolutionaries, violent criminal gangs, agitators, drug runners, human traffickers, and agent provocateurs--all loyal to Mexico--have been allowed to freely unleash their anti-American vitriol to the point that, in desperation, the State of Arizona is now trying to fight back. It is probably too little too late, however. Both the central government in Washington, D.C., and the national news media are sympathetic to the cause of La Raza. Look at how those brave legislators and governor in Arizona have been lampooned by the national press corps.

    The call for the "reconquista" of America's great Southwest will continue to escalate. It is all part of the globalists' plan to regionalize the United States. The template is already in place. CFR's Robert Pastor has already done the legwork. The North American Community (or Union) is past the drawing table stage; it is now being implemented. The NAFTA superhighway is being built and La Raza has been unleashed on the frontier. It's only a matter of time.

    Furthermore, take a look at the staggering debt that this government in Washington, D.C., has burdened the American people with. To talk numbers is meaningless: they total more than we can possibly begin to fathom. These numbers shock sensibilities and strain comprehension. In this regard, toss away all notions of partisan politics. Both major parties in DC have forever plunged our children and grandchildren's future into a chasm of indebtedness so deep that it can never be recovered. Never!

    Yet again, perpetual war has accomplished its purpose: unmitigated debt has allowed international bankers to print and loan vast sums of paper money that can be used to further their dreams of a global economy, complete with a mutually palatable system of burgeoning global governance.

    I say again, the American empire is not sustainable; the breakup of the United States is inevitable. It is only a matter of time. The real question is not IF the US will breakup, but WHEN and HOW?

    Globalists are already planning America's breakup. Indeed, their plans for the future global economy DEMAND that America fracture. So, all of those who want to parade around and pontificate about the "unconstitutionality" and "impracticality" of secession can do so to their hearts' content. It changes nothing. The breakup is coming.

    What is yet to be seen, of course, is if there will be enough states (the last vanguards of liberty) with the foresight to recognize the rise of tyranny and globalism as it approaches, and muster the courage and fortitude to do what principled patriots and lovers of liberty have always done: draw their line in the sand for freedom. Call it what you will; debate the definitions and language all you like; it all comes down to the same thing: either men fight for freedom and independence or they allow themselves and their children to be sold into slavery. At some point in the future (how far in the future, no one knows), we Americans will, once again, have to face that decision.
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    In the meantime, keep talking about freedom around your coffee tables; keep writing about freedom in your books and columns; keep praying about freedom in your churches and closets; keep dreaming about freedom in your hearts and minds. Real freedom--where a man can be left alone; where a man can keep what he earns; where a man can make his own choices; where a man's property is his own; where harassing agents of an oppressive central government are nowhere to be found; where a man doesn't have to sell his soul in order to sell his wares; where a man's worship of God is not subject to political correctness (or the IRS); and where a man can actually exchange commerce and correspondence without the prying eyes of Big Brother--is worth any price. ANY PRICE!

    As Barry Goldwater said, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice." Amen! And if the pursuit of freedom requires the extremism of secession, I say, LET IT COME!
  7. ozarkgoatman

    ozarkgoatman Resident goat herder

    #4 He is just continuing the work of many presidents that have come before him. We have been going down this road for 100+ yrs. He has just taken us from 2nd gear to overdrive. Not really any different than the other presidents for the last 100+ yrs. just a faster pace.

  8. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    +1000! Their handlers are, I think, getting impatient. They put a lot of hope in Slick, but "Little Willy" led him astray before he could do much.
    Uncle Al and The War Hero Kerry failed to post.
    Dubya carried the ball well, and has now handed off to bobo, who is ready and willing to go for the Goal. Notice how The Kenyan has never yet rescinded anything Dubya put into place...? It's all a part of the game.
    It's all the same team, with two different jerseys...... :rolleyes:
  9. ozarkgoatman

    ozarkgoatman Resident goat herder

    I love that line. [applaud] I've always said that Dems/Repbs were two sides of the same coin.

  10. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    One thing we learned about big money from hedge funds:They ALWAYS bet on both sides.
  11. SLugomist

    SLugomist Monkey++

    Well put[applaud]
  12. fortunateson

    fortunateson I hate Illinois Nazis!

    Bill did too much too fast and underestimated the American people. Thus the 1994 changeup, gun control failures etc.
  13. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    #4 But; Since "chimpy" Bush pulled some of his scary unconstitutional antics and knocked the shine off the two party system for me in the early 2000's I triedto reconcile that stuff with theworld and had a thought (posted some where deepin the tfhl archives no doubt) there "must be" a "big secret".

    He was running rough shod over the constitution( wanton wiretapping,marginalizing vets and militia types etc) because something more dear was at stake. An impending disaster briefed at the upper levels.Financial, climate, Asteroids, massive space hemorrhoids; whatever. They had to get a handle on Andy and Opey and aunt Bea and it had to happen fast.A decade later we see an honest to God financial collapse(engineered?) in the cards...Just a long shot,"vague feeling" not enough to write a bestseller about.
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