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Obama Flag an Obamanation

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by tacmotusn, Apr 16, 2012.

  1. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    Well it seems the Obama flag that angered so many, Like a Terrorist, has like a dead terrorist martyr, become a battle standard for the rabid Obama devotees.
    Well I guess it will make them easier to identify if and when things go totally to hell.
    American Citizens Flying Obama Flag

    April 16, 2012 by Bryan Nash

    The Obama flag is available for $24.95.​

    It is common this time of year for the citizens of South Jersey to fly flags from their balconies, but one man’s flag is being ridiculed by his neighbors.
    The flag looks just like an American flag, but the stars have been replaced with a picture of President Barack Obama’s face.
    The man’s neighbors are objecting to the flag.
    “I fought for that flag. I just don’t want the face,” said one neighbor.
    “I don’t care if it’s a can of peas, it don’t belong on my American flag,” said another.
    “I wanted to support the president of the United States,” answered Richard Clarkson, the man who purchased the flag.
    The question is whether the flag is a defamation of the American flag, or the expression of a citizen’s right to support the President.
    In March, there was an argument when veteran Jim Bradford noticed that the Lake County Democratic Party in Florida was flying the flag.
    The flag is for sale here.
    US Code Title 4 Chapter 1 pertains to the flag.
    The latter part of section 3 defines a “flag” as that which is:
    of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.
    Section 1 states:
    The flag of the United States shall be thirteen horizontal stripes, alternate red and white; and the union of the flag shall be forty-eight stars [Note: Section 2 provides for additional stars], white in a blue field.
    Section 3 states:
    Any person who, within the District of Columbia, in any manner, for exhibition or display, shall place or cause to be placed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, drawing, or any advertisement of any nature upon any flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America; or shall expose or cause to be exposed to public view any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign upon which shall have been printed, painted, or otherwise placed, or to which shall be attached, appended, affixed, or annexed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, or drawing, or any advertisement of any nature; or who, within the District of Columbia, shall manufacture, sell, expose for sale, or to public view, or give away or have in possession for sale, or to be given away or for use for any purpose, any article or substance being an article of merchandise, or a receptacle for merchandise or article or thing for carrying or transporting merchandise, upon which shall have been printed, painted, attached, or otherwise placed a representation of any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign, to advertise, call attention to, decorate, mark, or distinguish the article or substance on which so placed shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine not exceeding $100 or by imprisonment for not more than thirty days, or both, in the discretion of the court.

  2. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    A hard call.....

    Prima facie, it would seem that the law has been broken...it would be an interesting case to prosecute, and it would be interesting to see how effective a Constitutional freedom of expression defence might play out....seems to be just the kind of defence case that Denny Crane and Alan Shaw (Boston Legal) would take on, pro bono...and win! Denny Crane would hate winning, because his client (to him) would be a panty waist, commie liberal; but he would love winning, based on his love for the Constitution and the freedoms that it protects; and that would overide any partisan prejudice on his part against his client's politics.

    I guess it comes down to what is more important...the respect, dignity and decorum that a national patriotic symbol ought be accorded, as opposed to maintaining the integrity and the potency of another revered national symbol (well, much more than a national symbol actually), the US Constitution; that document that protects the rights and freedoms enjoyed by a nation of citizens.: The right to express one's beliefs and views...no matter how trivial, banal, idiotic, how ill thought, how obnoxious or how painful to the sensitivities of others.

    Tough call....but I'd be for the Constitution, before the Flag.

    Edit: If the person in question was convicted of an offence under the US Code relating to the National Flag, and If it were legal to do so....I would not fine the man, nor jail him....but would follow the principle enunciated in Edward E. Hale's story "The Man Without A Country". I would not permit the disrespectful flag flyer to display "Old Glory" at his funeral or upon his coffin...he didn't show it sufficient respect when he was living...why should he be honoured by it's presence when he is dead?

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  3. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    Truth is, it is probably more of a 1st amendment thing more than anything else. It doesn't matter how distasteful this is to some of us, freedom of expression should be for one and all. I have seen so called art where US flags in Chicago were smeared with excrement, urinated on, walked on, and the police protected the arab like local quasi raghead's right to publicly protest and display his "art".
    Considering all the more grevious crimes ignored by Eric Holder's, Obama administration Justice department, I doubt anything will come of this.
    A time of atonement is coming. We shall see how it all plays out.
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  4. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    This as much a desecration of our national flag as is peeing on it or burning it. But it seems such desecration is protected in today's Amerika.
  5. Redneck Rebel

    Redneck Rebel Monkey++

    Unless the flag is being sold as a Flag of the United States then no law has been broken. Most of the above cited laws are only specifications for what the Flag of the United States should look like and section 3 has no bearing whatsoever because it applies only within the boundaries of DC. I don't like that damn flag anymore than anyone else, but I'd defend his right to fly it. It's always easier to infringe upon the rights of something or someone that is unpopular. Much the way prohibiting felons from possessing firearms was the first chink in the armor of our beloved 2nd Amendment.
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  6. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    I'd have to protect the Constitution before a symbol, no matter how revered. One might get even by taking a picture of the "perp", smear it with turds or skunk juice, and post it on a lamp pole across the street from his residence. I cannot, for the life of me, see how that would be a crime. Certainly an insult, but not rising to the level of libel, slander, or inciting riots, and surely not an assault.

    I'd hate to try making the argument that it really insults the flag, either. Tough one in court. Who says it is necessarily our flag? No union shown, just the artist's choice to put a picture in the upper left corner of a striped cloth.

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  7. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    We're waaaay too lax with how we treat our flag. Perhaps it is just me, but, I have a problem with flag bikinis...not bikinis, but the likeness of the flag on bikinis. I like bikinis...actually, I just like women.

    The flag represents (to me) the sacrifices of all those who came before me to make this country what it is .... was.

    I can see how a liberal douche-bag would want to do this....but for the Kenyan to not openly condemn it shows his hubris...and lack of understanding of what the flag means. On the other hand, I think he hates that flag and what it stands for and would like to see it replaced with something else. Everyone who supports him at this point are mindless idiots who are assisting in their own repression.
  8. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Monkey+

    Obama Flag an Obamanation? Of course it is, everything about the man is.

    But this isn't an American flag. Not my American flag I served for 28 years. It's idol worship, on a flag designed to resemble the American flag. I hate it, but it's just some idiot showing the world how stupid he is.
  9. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    Demand Obama be Impeached .... just click below

    It's Official: Barack Obama Has Declared Himself De-facto Dictator Of The United States Of America.

    He stopped trying to hide the fact that he believes that he's our king and dictator long ago. And now, it's even worse... some of his minions and supporters are no longer trying to hide the fact that THEY believe that Obama is our king and our dictator.

    They say a picture is worth a thousand words and the sick and repulsive "novelty item" to the right is now being flown by Obama's minions across the country. Even the see-no-evil-Obama-media has taken notice of people flying this desecration in various places across the country, including a Democratic Headquarters in Florida.

    The fact that people would desecrate the flag in such a manner should make you angry, but it's also a symptom of a deep sickness. You would have expected to see such a cultish display in Mao Tse Tung's China or in Soviet Russia... but never here... never in the good ol' USA.

    But it's flying here and that means that the cult of personality is alive and well in what used to pass for the United States of America. It can no longer be ignored. We are now being ruled by a tin-pot, de-facto dictator and it's about time that someone, other than Obama's minions who fly that desecration with pride in their hearts, has the courage to admit it.

    The Obama Regime is a full-grown malignancy... a horrendous disease afflicting this great nation; and the picture above proves it more than any words can ever express. And there is only one cure for what ails this great nation. The time for Congress to IMPEACH BARACK OBAMA is upon us. It is now!

    Use the hyperlink below to send your urgent and personalized Blast Faxes to the Republican Leadership of the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives.


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    He's Declared Congress Irrelevant. Now, He's About To Declare The Courts Irrelevant Too.
    For months, Barack Obama telegraphed that he would deem Congress irrelevant. No one believed it. When Obama adviser Josh Earnest, said working with Congress is "no longer a requirement," our elected officials simply dismissed the statement as a figure of speech.

    But Obama was as good as his word. When he clearly violated Article 2, Section 2 of the United States Constitution and decreed, without the advice and consent of the Senate, that Richard Cordray would be the head of his so-called Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, he made it official.

    Through this seemingly insignificant but illegal act of defiance, Barack Obama stopped sticking his toe in the water and finally took the plunge. He essentially declared himself dictator, and no one in Congress lifted a finger to stop his tyrannical usurpation of power!

    And now, he's about to do the same to the Supreme Court and no one can say he didn't warn us. With totalitarian audacity and dictatorial arrogance, Barack Hussein Obama recently DARED the Justices of the United States Supreme Court to cross him and strike down his precious ObamaCare. From on high, he proclaimed that any ruling, not to his liking, would constitute "judicial activism."

    And in spite of the back-tracking from Eric Holder's Department of Injustice, Obama still managed to successfully telegraph his chilling and totalitarian message. It doesn't really matter what actually constitutes "judicial activism" because only Barack Obama defines "judicial activism" and what Barack Obama, defines as "judicial activism" will NOT BE TOLERATED. Essentially he's saying: Go ahead, rule against me; I'll simply declare you irrelevant and continue to implement ObamaCare anyway!

    The pundits will try to tell you that such a thing is not possible... that it can't happen. They're fools. What's to stop Barack Obama from declaring the Supreme Court irrelevant? What's to stop him from doing again what he has already done? He's violated the Constitution and usurped power on far too many occasions already and no one has stopped him.

    Why, after all that has already transpired, is it so hard for the politicians and pundits in Washington to get their heads around the concept that Barack Obama will YET AGAIN usurp authority he does not have and rule this nation as he pleases? He's already declared himself to be above the law... beyond the law. What's Congress going to do? Impeach him?

    Our answer? Hell yes! Our founders knew that such a thing could happen. They knew that a self-styled dictator could, one day, take control of the Executive Branch of the federal government, and they ratified Article 2, Section IV of the Constitution of the United States to safeguard our great nation against such an eventuality.

    The Obama Regime is a disease. Impeachment is the cure!

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    Enough Is Enough.
    How many times will Barack Obama violate his oath of office before conservative in Congress, say enough is enough? What will it take for our so-called conservative leaders to stop hiding behind their desks and do what must be done to save our country?

    Something must be done and you're not the only one saying it.

    When Obama commanded the United States Supreme Court not to strike down his precious (and unconstitutional) ObamaCare, Breitbart.tv wrote that Obama had "declared war on the Supreme Court" and Dan Collins with Conservativecommune.com wrote: "This thug needs to be impeached and thrown out of office for a seditious violation of the Constitution." And yet, no one in Congress has lifted a finger.

    Tony Katz, in TownHall.com, writes: "Obama’s pronouncement about the Supreme Court was so disingenuous and divisive as alone to warrant impeachment proceedings." And yet, no one in Congress has lifted a finger.

    Obama was caught in an open mic moment and actually told Russia's Dmitry Medvedev that he would have "more flexibility" after the November election to put our national security on the back burner, Katz called it a "stunning statement... worthy of a conversation about treason." And yet, no one in Congress has lifted a finger.

    The Obama Regime is telling the Catholic Church and other institutions of faith, in direct violation of the 1st Amendment, that they are now REQUIRED to pay for the birth control, sterilizations and abortions of others. And yet, no one in Congress has lifted a finger.

    And in spite of the constitutional requirement that the President of the United States enforce all the laws of the land, Barack Obama decreed that he would not enforce the Defense of Marriage Act, and that he would not defend the Act in court. It was a clear violation of the Constitution. Peter LaBarbera with AFTAH rightly called it "another shocking act" by "the most arrogant and Constitution-abusing president in America’s history." And yet, no one in Congress has lifted a finger.

    It's time for our elected officials in Congress to understand what the American people already know. Our nation is under attack from within and the source of those attacks must be removed.

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    Tyranny Has Become A Pattern Of Behavior With The Obama Regime.
    Let's face facts; tyranny has become a pattern of behavior with Obama and he's no longer making an effort to even conceal his tyrannical abuses of power. Obama has essentially said... one too many times... I'll do as I please and I dare anyone to stop me.

    Ironically, a man who is probably not constitutionally eligible to hold the office in the first place has seized powers that go far beyond those that a legitimate President would wield.

    But Barack Obama is not a king or a monarch. He is not our dictator and when the man or woman occupying the Oval Office violates the Constitution, the remedy is IMPEACHMENT!

    There can be no other remedy. Obama has gone too far too many times. The Obama Regime has become bold as brass.

    And why shouldn't Obama and his apparatchiks be bold? At every turn our so-called Republican leaders in Congress have given him inches, and each time he has taken miles. When will these tyrannical abuses stop? How far will Barack Obama go? When will they draw a line in the sand and say: the tyranny stops today!

    History doesn't paint a pretty picture. Until patriotic Americans take action and lean on our elected representatives to expose Obama's dictatorial, illegal and unconstitutional behavior, the sky is the limit.

    But it's not too late. To those who may be saying that pushing for impeachment is "impractical" with an election less than year away, we respectfully ask: how much damage can Barack Obama do in one year? How much power can he tyrannically usurp in a year? How much damage can he do to this great country and our Constitution in a year?

    Pending elections DO NOT trump the Constitution and at this point, patriotic Americans should not be asking WHETHER Barack Obama should be impeached but rather, need to be asking WHEN will Barack Obama be impeached!

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  10. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Monkey+

    I hate this. I also hope for and work toward impeachment, but it is as you said... nothing more than a "cult of personality". We may have to go through tough times ahead, but this flame of idol worship will burn out, or be blown out. America will survive this clown. She will not be the same, but in the end, she will survive. She may even be better off...
  11. scrapman21009

    scrapman21009 Chupacabra Hunter

    I saw the title

    I was expecting something more like this
  12. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    I'll say it again, at the risk of violating obummer'slaw negating the First Amendment rights.....

    barack husein obama is guilty, and so are all those in the Senate and House who helped 'select' him and continue to support him, of HIGH TREASON in a time of WAR. There is only ONE punishment for those found guilty.

    Of course, so long as he is in power controlling the judicial system, nothing will be done - the obama machine has it's tentacles everywhere.
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  13. jungatheart

    jungatheart Beginner's Mind

    Looks like a target to me. For an RPG.
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