Obama's Ramadan Blessing

Discussion in 'Faith and Religion' started by tacmotusn, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    Okay Religious scholars, Pick this one apart please! Quote chapter and verse of the peaceful islamic Koran. Don't just disagree, Quite frankly I am a Christian. My religion has had it's rough times in the past, the crusades, the spanish inquisition, protestant / catholic irish atrocities, but it's been 600 years or so since they persecuted Muslems. Muslems have pretty much been constant in their killing of non-believers since day one. Fundamentalist Muslems have declared religious jihad (WAR) against the Christian west. I do not support the war in Iraq or Afganistan. The reason I do not support the war, is that the way it is being fought is too limited and causes too many unnecessary losses of American lives. War is hell and civilians die as collateral damage in all wars. In many and including, the last major one that we actually won (WW II), civilians were actually targeted to destroy the morale of the enemy, and make them turn on their own government demanding an end to the suffering. Prime examples would be the fire bombing of Dresden Germany, and the Nuking of Japan. All of that said, here is the article I thought you should read.
    Obama's Ramadan Blessing

    [​IMG]By Joseph Farah

    There's a whole lot of pretending going on in our world today.

    We have a federal judge ruling that the 5,000-year-old institution of marriage was "biased" and immoral from the start because of the way it discriminated unfairly against homosexuals.

    We have a Justice Department that dismissed an open-and-shut case of vigilante-style voter intimidation because the perpetrators were black and the victims white.

    And we have a man in the White House who extols Islam for "advancing justice, progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings."

    [​IMG]That's what I call pretending.

    In blessing the Muslim holiday of Ramadan, Barack Obama added that Islam "is a faith known for great diversity and racial equality" and that it "has always been part of America."

    I have more than a passing knowledge of Islam that includes firsthand experience and a significant amount of study over the last 30 years. But somehow I must have missed the advancements of justice, progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.

    Honestly, I can think of none.

    Did I overlook a reformation in the religion that has resulted in one genocide after another for the last 1,300 years? Racial equality? Has the Quran been rewritten to excise Muhammad's characterizations of blacks as "ugly," "raisin heads" and "pug-nosed slaves"?

    Didn't it also say in that book that when Allah created the white man, he touched his right shoulder and he came out destined for paradise, but when he touched the left shoulder of the black man, he came out destined for hell?

    Who does Obama think sold all those millions of black Africans into slavery in Europe and America? Is he not aware that black slavery is still alive in some Muslim countries in the Middle East?

    Justice? Talk to me about it after you finish reading "The Stoning of Soriah M."

    Progress? Can you name for me one major scientific or social advancement we can historically and accurately attribute to Islam?

    Tolerance? I quote:
    "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."
    Today, imams in the Middle East and elsewhere still quote Muhammad's hadith as their current marching orders:
    "The Hour [Day of Resurrection] will not arrive until you fight the Jews, [until a Jew will hide behind a rock or tree] and the rock and the tree will say: 'Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'"
    Dignity of all human beings? In Islam, Muslim males have a higher worth than any others. A Muslim man can have up to four wives, beat them and change them as he pleases.

    How about Islam always being a part of America?

    Perhaps Obama is referring to the Barbary pirates attacking American commercial ships, capturing their crews and holding them for ransom. Or maybe he's thinking back further to the reason Christopher Columbus journeyed West – to find a safe trade route to the East, one that would mean avoiding the murderous mujahedeen who had blocked the land routes.

    I don't know.

    What do you think he's talking about?

    Were any of the founders Muslim?

    What are the great Muslim moments in American history?

    Maybe all of this sounds harsh.

    But somebody's got to say it.

    I'm not going to sit still while this pretender of an American president lies about the historical record and misrepresents evil as good.

    It's time to stop pretending.
  2. UrbanFool

    UrbanFool The Village Idiot

    You're preaching to the choir.
  3. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Kind of like beating a dead horse to a bloody pulp. But, at least it's not spam!
  4. UrbanFool

    UrbanFool The Village Idiot

    But it IS infuriating that there's nothing we can do about it.
  5. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Oh there's something that can be done. Unfortunately nobody wants to admit it. [beer] And I just realized this is the "religion" forum. Dammit. I wish I could unsubscribe so I can't see the posts.
  6. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    Yup, it sure is! That's exactly why I put it here. Hey, I just noticed you are now quoting George Carlin instead of your godless communist mentor Upton Sinclair. How strange?..[stirpot]..[angel]
  7. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Didn't you get the memo? George Carlin rose from the dead and informed me he was really Christ reborn and died again but died and rose again to tell me he was Christ reborn!

    It's true, I swear it. I think I will write a book about it. Maybe bribe a few powerful church goers to include my version...the power of the divine is an amazing tool, you know! ;)

    Ahhhh. Nothin' except love, Tac. [beer]
  8. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    b::you are an enigma, surrounded by a paradox, and hidden in a puzzle.[beer], but you make me laugh as often as I swear at you. Cheers Brokor. May my God look out for you no matter what you believe.seesaw
  9. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Thanks dude. You too.
  10. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    And may the Force be with you all!... :D
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