has anyone ever tried making a muzzle loader with a rotating cylender like a revolver one that could be preloaded and changed like a magazine? if so, why wasnt it continued and what were the results?
Samuel Colt had a Carbine that used a Revolver Mechanism, with a 18" barrel, and Winchester type stock...... I believe Remington also made such a weapon as well....
did they work decently? ive been thinkin of tryin to make one thanks i found the info i needed ill be doin some drawings now
They were known for occasional chain fires (neighboring chamber or chambers fired at same time) when primary chamber fired. Most barrels of these weapons did not have a fore arm grip thus holding on to hot barrel discouraged hand placement out there. So the weapon is muzzle heavy to the extreme. You can imagine the damage possibly done to a supporting arm if holding the barrel forward of the cylinder. Additionally even with excellent barrel cylinder alignment, there is hot gas escape/discharge where the two meet upon firing the weapon. Also occasional tiny particals of lead shaved from the bullet. All in all the conditions above distract from accurate firing of the weapon. Decades ago replicas of the Remington or Colt versions were available. A friend in a muzzleloading club had one that I shot a few times. Double rotating barrels were a better option. Here is an example: http://www.swivelbreech.com/ . I am still in contact with my friend who had one of the colt/remington replicas and will contact him for comment. . My friend had the remington version. Here is an example: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=633440 an excellent article on the remington: http://www.alliancelink.com/srrs/articles/forgotten1866.htm . here is the colt version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Colt_carbine.jpg or this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Colt_Roots_British_Carbine.JPG
I have a revolver carbine that has spare .45LC cylinders that can be changed pretty quickly. It is a .44 Navy model and Cabelas sells both the carbine and the .45LC cylinders for them.
+1 on the chain fires... watched one chain fire at a cowboy shoot/demonstration fortunately it was firing blanks... fired 2 cylinders at once... no damage to either the shooter or the weapon... yiou need to seal the cylinders with somethig like lard or lube to keep it from hapening... ymmv
Chain fires are a, not common, but inevitable happenstance, in Multi Cylinder Black Powder Weapons. The usual way to prevent such occurrences is, after the Cylinders are loaded, but before the Caps are put in place, to fill the space between the Projectile and Cylinder Face, with a nonflammable Grease. I use Crisco, myself. Others use BP Bullet Lube, and I have seen Axle Grease used. ..... YMMV....
ive been toying with a solid bar type magazine that would pass up thru the chamber area something that looks kinda like an m16 but is a muzzle loader
Try Bacon I'd recommend bacon fat for that pleasant breakfast aroma of pan fried smoky bacon while yer sending lead down range at the guys wearin' black hats! You may not kill them, but you'll surely torment the life outa them! ; )
I prefer Mink Oil paste in the flat can, like shoe polish. It smells nice (it WILL splatter things a bit...), and doesn't melt in Florida heat. I also like the lubed felt Wonder Wads over the powder. I have never lubed the rear of the cylinder, and if the bullet/ball fits properly, there should be no chainfire from the front flame. I've been shooting three cap&ball replica revolvers (a Colt 1860 Army and two Colt 1851 Navies, all in .44 caliber) since the late 70's off & on, and NEVER had one chainfire. I also use T/C Bore Butter, but it's rather expensive.
for the time being im gonna work with a .25 caliber muzzle loading revolver the tools for makin the bore that size are easy to get and it wont be such a big BANG if i f*ck somethin up im wanna make the backside of the cylinder indented with a nipple in the indentation for those lil primer caps anyone know the size of them off-hand? inside dia and height, so i can make the nipple right?
Nipples are usually replaceable screw ins. They come in various sizes. For your application you probably want one that takes a number 11 cap. . I would advise dixie gun works, or log cabin shop as a source. links below . http://www.dixiegunworks.com/advanced_search_result.php?s=1&keywords=nipple . http://logcabinonline.com/index1.html?lang=en-us&target=search.html&lmd=0.44375019845612706
