OK...Now this is getting ridiculous! Anger is Disease!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by bnmb, Jul 30, 2010.


  1. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

  2. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    LOL, it is and we get it from the goobermint. Get rid of the 545 idiots running the country into the ground and we will get better/healthier. Remember in November !!!!!!!!!!!
     
  3. jungatheart

    jungatheart Beginner's Mind

    That really pisses me off!!........ Can I get disability now?
     
  4. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    ROFLMAO!...NICE ONE! [applaud]
     
  5. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    Good lord, they've gone and made a symptom of PTSD it's own illness..
     
  6. Wild Trapper

    Wild Trapper Pirate Biker

    seesawAnger is a choice not a disease. Why we choose to get angry is what doesn't always seem like a choice. Also, found this from the above link:

    No one here is guilty of 'hoarding' I'm sure... [own2]
     
  7. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    Ever known someone with PTSD? for them it's not really a choice. It's a conscious effort to subdue the anger and emotional swings brought on by any myriad of environmental cues.
     
  8. Wild Trapper

    Wild Trapper Pirate Biker

    Vietnam vet here and yes, I know personally what I'm talking of. Took many years of counseling for PTSD and anger management. Excepting that we choose to be angry is the first step to learning control. I've also known a lot of people who didn't have PTSD and had just as big of problem with their anger. Excepting that anger is a choice, puts the responsibility of the choice back on the individual and not on the person, place or thing (trigger) that made us angry. Learning to recognize triggers also helps as we can know how to deal with our anger if it doesn't blind side us. Believe this, anger owned me until I learned how to recognize and deal with it. Do I still have issues? You betcha, but not to the point of being owned.
     
  9. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

  10. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    I know personally as well. I also counseled people with brain injuries and PTSD of various levels. Trigger recog is very important but it's also important to note that your brain was actually damaged as a result of a constant barrage of cortisol. PTSD goes beyond just a psychological and into the realm of physical as well (neuronal damage). It takes a lot of practice and conscious effort to make the right emotional reactive switch. It's not really a choice until that conscious effort is put into play. Took me 15 years to chill and, like you, it's a constant effort to keep from being owned. Good luck and thanks for your service to our country.
     
  11. Wild Trapper

    Wild Trapper Pirate Biker

    I've a close personal friend, Chief LEO in town nearby, his son has brain damage from getting blown up in an IED in Afghanistan. He talked to me, the Dad, sought me out actually, to ask questions about PTSD, as his son also has issues from his experiences. The son kind of physically walked away from the incident, but it's the after math that gets to a person.

    That incident really socked it to me, as it triggered my emotions big time. We can only pray, (a best reaction), for his son for healing of his mind. I know that in cases like his, it will take a long time as his brain was damaged in the explosion. We practically watched this young man grow up as we've been friends of the family for many years.
     
  12. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    Fastest recovery is the first 18 months. From that point up to about 36 months (of course all of this is relative, each individual is different) the neurological repair via collateral extension is reduced dramatically. The best thing you can do is cognitive exercises to help build new pathways.

    I used to have to my kids (the teens I counseled) write down everything they could think of that made them angry or have emotional switches. I had them carry a notepad with them. Once we identified the major offending cues, we made efforts to remove objects, sounds (music was a BIG hitter as it brought back memories) and we had to slowly reintroduce it all so they could learn how to understand when an emotional reaction was brewing. Lots of times, some of these episodes would take hours and sometimes days to manifest such that it was very hard to find a recog pattern for them. So I had to teach them how to do it so they could practice it on their own. Eventually they got pretty good at recog'ing the processes that started their episodes and were able to first notify people about their emotions and then they were all able to learn how to cope.. because it wasn't just his/her problem. It was something the family had to deal with too as you well know.

    Sorry for preaching to the choir, but my heart goes out to this young man.
     
  13. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I now listen exclusively to classical music in the car. Slow drivers (elderly are everywhere in PA) are the bane of my existence. In Iraq, we owned the road. I can't expect to own the road here in the USA. It's not just old people. My Dad is 70 and still drives "normal" like he did when he was 30. It's just that I equate slow driving and people on the road for no reason with idiocy. And the world is in no shortage of idiots.

    Every minute is a struggle.
     
  14. Wild Trapper

    Wild Trapper Pirate Biker

    Now, that is funny! Back when I was young, I actually grew up in PA. We called 'em 'Pennsylvania Pokes'. Now that I'm old, I still don't really like pokes on the road. If people would just drive and pay attention to what's going on around them. Cell phones have replace cigarettes for being a major reason people are distracted while driving. I do have some empathy for elderly drivers now, getting old really sucks and nothing except death will cure that. However, this old guy leaves talking on the cell phone to passengers.
     
  15. Wild Trapper

    Wild Trapper Pirate Biker

    No problem, My heart must be in the right place, because mine does, big time.
     
  16. jungatheart

    jungatheart Beginner's Mind

    Amen to that.
     
  17. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    Well, it's always seemed the Psycho-doctors like having ever more weird and imaginative 'illnesses' and 'diseases' they can prescribe meds for. They can never seem to 'cure' the problems, but they CAN ring up some impressive dollar figures for the life-long drug treatments and couch sessions. I call it - "Job Security"....... seesaw

    Is it any wonder that their biggest customer base is in LA and SF? I'm betting they do a bang-up business in the swankier parts of DC too......
     
  18. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    I went to school for psychology (neuroscience) and I can tell you first hand that this IS, in fact, the case. These doctors are so engrossed in their research and academia that they will eventually pick apart EVERY minuscule behavior and assign it some named disorder. It was sickening to learn this.. thank God neuroscience practitioners were not like this.
     
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