Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by Mortimer Adler Moose, Aug 25, 2016.

  1. Oli.
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  2. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Well, imaginary or not, I am glad someone finally gets it!
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  3. The Truth
    by Brandon J Raub on Friday, November 11, 2011 at 7:00am ·
    America has lost itself. We have lost who we truly are. This is the land of the free and the home of the brave. This is the land of Thomas Jefferson. This is the land of Benjamin Franklin. This is the land of Fredrick Douglas. This is the land of Smedley Butler. This is the land John F. Kennedy. This is the land of Martin Luther King. This is the land where the cowboy wins. This is the land where you can start from the bottom and get to the top. This is the land where regardless of you race and ethnicity you can suceed and build a better life for you and your family. This is the land where every race coexists peacefully. This is the land where justice wins. This is the land where liberty dwells. This is the land where freedom reigns. This is the land where we help the poor, and people help eachother. This is land where people beat racism.

    The federal reserve is wrong. They have designed a system based off of gread and fear. They designed a system to crush the middle class between taxes and inflation. This is wrong, and it is unjust. It is wrong.

    We have allowed ourselves to be deceived and seduced by the powers of the printing press. It is not a good system. It discourages saving: the foundation for all stable economic activity. The federal reserve is artificially manipulating interests rates and creating phony economic data. This thing has deceived our entire nation.

    They created it 1913. They also created the income tax in 1913. They encouraged the growth of debt so they can tax you on it. There is interest on the debt. Your government is in bed with these people. They want to enslave you to the government so that they can control every aspect of your lives. It is an empire based on lies. They operate of greed and fear.

    There is a better way. It's called freedom. Freedom is called a lot of things. But there is a true meaning. It means very simply that you have the right to do whatever you want as long as you are not infringing on the freedoms of other people.

    I firmly believe that God set America apart from the other nations of the world. He saved a place where people could come to to escape bad systems of government. This system we have created works. It really works.

    There is evil going on all around the world. The United States was meant to lead the charge against injustice, but through our example not our force. People do not respond to having liberty and freedom forced on them.

    Men and Women follow courage. They follow leadership, and courage. Our example has paved the way for people all around the world to change their forms of government.

    Force is not the way because liberty is a powerful concept. The idea that men can govern themselves is the basis for every just form of government.

    We can govern ourselves. We do not need to be governed by men who want to install a one world banking system. These men have machine hearts. Machine and unnatural hearts. They have blocked out the possibility of a better world. They fear human progress. They have monopolies on everything.

    This life can be free and beautiful. There are enough resources on this earth to support the world's population. There are enough resources on this earth to feed everyone. There is enough land for everyone to own their own land and farm, and produce their own energy.

    These people have been hiding technology. There are ways to create power easily. There is technology that can provide free cheap power for everyone. There are farming techniques that can feed the entire world.

    They are controlling your media. They have dumbed you down through your school systems. They have systematically dismantled the constitution. It is in rags.

    The bill of rights is being systematically dismantled. Men have spilled their blood for those rights.

    Your sons and daughters, your brothers and sisters, and Americas best young men and women are loosing their limbs. They are loosing their lives. They are loosing the hearts. They do not know why they are fighting. They are killing. And they do not know why.

    They have done some extraordinary acts. Their deeds go before them. But these wars are lies. They are lies. They deceived our entire nation with terrorism. They have gotten us to hand them our rights. Our Rights! Men died for those rights!

    September Eleventh was an inside job. They blew up a third building in broad daylight. Building 7.

    Your leaders betrayed you.

    You elected an aristocracy. They are beholden to special interests. They were brainwashed through the Council on Foreign Relations. Your leaders are planning to merge the United States into a one world banking system. They want to put computer chips in you.

    These men have evil hearts. They have tricked you into supporting corporate fascism. We gave them the keys to our country. We were not vigilant with our republic.

  4. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    I got no problem admitting I am voting for Trump out of fear of Hillary being elected. Give me another viable option to prevent her from becoming President and I'll consider it. I'd vote for a monkey fornicating with a football if I thought it had a real chance of keeping Hillary out.
  5. Fool, said I, you do not know that silence like a cancer grows! Take Arms! Take Arms!
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  6. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Moose, didn't I hear that in a Simon and Garfunkel song?
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  7. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    I've got my own arms...no need to take them from anyone else unless they look like they are going to hurt themselves...or me. I think I'll write that on a subway wall.
  8. Oltymer

    Oltymer Monkey++

    Yep, gotta do something even if it's wrong, it's a damned if I do, and damned if I don't situation.

    Politically I oppose George Soros, who has bought out enough of the government to control it. I know Clinton is one of his lackeys, but don't think Trump has been brought under his control, hence all the mainstream media rants and street protests coming from other Soros holdings.

    Taking all that into consideration, along with 3rd party vote splitting, then Trump is the only choice I can make.

    Reminds me of an old black & white B grade Western I saw when I was a kid, where the town has been taken over by a crook and his gang, the local newspaper has been silenced, sheriff has been bought out, and the crook controls everything, bars, bordello, dry goods store, hotel, restaurant, bank, etc...

    Then in rides a lone cowboy wearing a white hat, he ain't perfect, but he's the man for the job...
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  9. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    Cowboy in a white hat sticks out like a sore thumb. One-armed John J. Macreedy might work better...since libs are suckers for the handicapped. ;)

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  10. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    That's mah moose. [rockon]
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  11. Oltymer

    Oltymer Monkey++

    Gonna have to watch that whole movie now - OMG that was GREAT!!!
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  12. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    Yes I know how you feel. I might watch it start to finish also. A good friend who I discuss, and argue with, and often agree with also has suggested I rewatch 1984 from start to finish closely. Might do that soon to.
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2016
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  13. The Oligarchy has owned our Country since 1963. Every President since Kennedy, and that includes everybody's favorite, Mr. Reagan, has been ruled by the New World Order. Bush 1 even gave a speech about it and we still said it was tin-foil hat. Our Liberties have been steadily eroded, carved away with each and every new legislation, tax, and entitlement. Our military has trained in martial law scenarios in our country and with our NATO "allies". Tear it down! Burn it to the ground, it is contaminated and cannot be fixed. They have armies, drones, missiles, and have bought enough guns and ammo to arm EVERY Federal agency from the Post Office to the Forestry Division. They are not armed with "Semi-Automatic sporting rifles", they are armed with machine guns, armored vehicles, explosives, and they know who we are; each and every one of us! They know what we buy for groceries, who we are indentured to, they know when we buy more food, clothing, ammunition than we need for hunting squirrels and , God help me, Mooses!
    A dear friend of mine, ex-Delta, was one of the Special Forces tasked to train and arm Osama Bin Laden and the Talliban. I can guarentee you that our government is also instrumental in forming ISIS. We have to have these horrible enemies to keep the machine running, to keep us all afraid, while they continue to take our Liberties in the name of National Security. Tomorrow is too late; burn it down.
  14. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I hate to say, Moose, but you are starting to make sense.
  15. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Might have taken logic lessons from Frank, or at least some debate practice.
  16. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Running a bit off the mark now, but It will remain for the comedy value.
  17. john316

    john316 Monkey+++

    STILL a good thread
  18. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Definition of oligarchy
    1 : government by the few "The corporation is ruled by oligarchy."
    2 : a government in which a small group exercises control especially for corrupt and selfish purposes "a military oligarchy was established in the country" also : a group exercising such control "An oligarchy ruled the nation."
    3 : an organization under oligarchic control "That country is an oligarchy."

    A publicly traded corporation is, by definition and law, an 'oligarchy'. Controlled by the board.

    A military organization - also a 'oligarchy' by design.

    Churches? Yup.

    about that 'small group' - all politics are local. Here, the Unions run the Muni and the State, but really have nothing to say at a National level....

    The Golden Rule applies
    Them what gots the gold, makes the rules....

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