Operational Security & Wolves In Sheep's Clothing

They showed the episode that Yard Dart was speaking of. What a scary dude. My kid called him a redneck, I say that was a product of inbreeding. I am sure we all have people like that in our area, it just hasn't been exposed. What struck me was that Kevin seemed to make a few references in regard to cost. I got the feeling that he may live on assistance. It has never struck me that the welfare crowd maybe preparing. Many times I have heard people say they can't afford to store food but I have never heard someone say they are making plans in case their SNAP card quits working.

@JABECmfg mentioned that American Prepper network. I agree that those people seem to just tell all there. It was very unsettling for me when I went there, not sure why but it was kind of creepy.

@kellory So what is the point? Should we not be on here telling the truth? Should we not post or lie on the what did you put away this week thread? I usually "like" your posts cause you are funny and make points I never thought of. As for being nice, I try to be nice on this site because the Monkey has some hardcore Mods that would smack you into shape quite quick. Believe me there have been times when I would like to rip someone a new one but that is not allowed here.

As for my neighborhood, we have some real selfish people and we have a few scary people. There is one place that fascinates me. I have no clue what goes on inside but what is happening outside fascinates me. Very interesting "improvements".

 

@ghrit I have actually seen the Mods here encourage people to change a post due to too much information. The monkey does seem to encourage people to keep their cards close.

Very good advice that needs to be remembered, but sometimes is is so hard to leave that personal part out.

@kellory i always thought you were a park maintenance man, like riding around picking up branches and emptying trash. I don't know why, you wrote something once and that is the picture I got. I don't really care what anyone does or who they are, but then I respect peoples privacy or try to. I know, it is a scary world out there and the WEB brings whole new threats. Many times I have to remind myself to take off my rose colored glasses.

 

@Motomom34 , I did share that i do maintenance routes in parks. I keep people out of buildings, and repair damage done by people trying to break in, as well as general maintenance to ensure things are running as they should. They are one of many contracted jobs, for maintenance or repair. (one small part of the job)

 

That guy could have been GunKid's cousin.

 

Totally agree. It is distressing but totally easy to get caught up into the look what I have or have done in prepping when somebody post a thread. It isn't good OPSEC however and I have been guilty as well.

A Mormon friend I used to have coffee with a couple times a week got in to a preps discussion. He and I are friends so we talked candidly about the LDS position on preparedness, resources, self defense and the percentage of people who followed Church suggestions. It was more than the general public but not high enough IMO.

I mentioned a few people who had posted their survival plan was an AK-47 and a Mormon directory. His response was "what makes them think we don't have AK-47's too". So my take on it was that even though Church members don't advertise what they have. That what they do have will be defended. Sounds good to me. Tight lips and sharp sticks.

 

I suspect he will be investigated and eventually charged with conspiracy and maybe other incidental charges they can find. They will let him plead out with probation and not be allowed to possess firearms for ever. Just my guess.

 

Not possess....legally. He will just steal some, or use a knife or club to repurposed a few....watch that kind closely.

 

I like Mormons as a people, and as individuals, I just got tired of working for them.
I worked in a Mormon owned and run machine shop. Everyone else was a Mormon. I still have the book of Mormon they gave me when trying to convert me.
Every time someone had to go home because of slow work, it was me. Every time, there was a rough and dirty job, I did it. Every time inventory had to be done, I was handed the list and told to start counting parts.
Even my wages were played with. Raises were not on scheduled as promised. I can still remember the confrontation when I bearded the old man in his office about my long overdue raise "well, if I can get you to work for less than you're worth, then I'm a good businessman. If you can get me to give you a raise, then you're a good businessman". All the while, I was never as good as a Mormon unless I became one. I put up with that place for three years. Never again.

 

Having lived, work for and with mormon and seventh day adventist I come to realized that they will take care of their own, not you. Keeping that in mind you can prosper. Forget that and you will be disappointed. That said, I would go back and work at those places again. But I would plan to watch out for myself.

 

Contrary to politically correct dogma, it is not the differences among individuals in a group which gives them collective strength, rather, it is what they have in common which makes them strong.

 

Bump, Great thread !!!

Many know that I work at remote location's. I also have crossed the Gulf 4 time's in a twin mast Gulf Star, I have many option's.

 

I dare say that a bunch of Klansmen have a lot more in common than just a penchant for wearing bed sheets and flour sacks, and that their group is probably as politically incorrect an homogenous grouping as one is likely to find, but what they have in common may not necessarily be a strength.

If one is lucky, one can pick and choose one‘s survival partners.. .life, as often as not does not afford that luxury.

I don‘t much care whether my survival group has much in common as far as gender, age, race, politics, religion, sexual preferences, or which football team they root for. Provided that they can commit to the common goal of survival, are prepared to contribute positively to that goal, can commit to resolving conflict that may damage prospects for survival, then a diversity of skillsets and problem solving strategies would seem to me to be an asset.

A group of Chelloveck clones is not a group that I would want to be part of. We all might have a lot in common, and as awesome as this Chelloveck is, being in a whole team of Chellovecks would not necessarily enhance this Chelloveck‘s survivability over a group that have very little in common other than survival as a cohesive group

 

The differences among individuals in the group gives the group greater capabilities. The strength comes from what they have in common. That could be refined to state a common commitment. Whether that is a xenophobic penchant for a separation of the races or dedication to the ideas of a nation, is up to the group. It could be a union which sticks together or a religious faith which prefers business with others of their own type. Either way, what they are commonly committed to is what gives them strength. Their lack of common commitment makes them weak. My point is, in the post above about the Mormons (or was it Normans?) they get strength from their unity and looking out for their own kind. There are many religious, ethnic, cultural, or racial groups that do this openly. But you also see it in other groups, like soldiers, marines, cops, firefighters, schools, athletic teams, etc. Whether or not you respect what unifies them, you have to respect the strength they get from it. If you want strength in your own group, get it committed to something in common.

 

It was Benjamin Franklin who said "We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately." The same goes today.

Silversnake is right IMHO.

 

" the Mormons (or was it Normans" what can I say? The dang phone keeps trying to auto-correct, what ain't wrong. I had to edit it on my laptop, once I got home.

 

Was talkin to a neibour who is a 1%er. And he pointed out that if shtf and it was one of his brothers and me he would have to choose the brother. Told him that was ok, he shouldnt wander up my way if things turn bad I wouldnt be able to trust him and I would have to see to things. Explained that in that situation one must trust and be trusted by those with you to have each others backs. NO divided loyalties..