Optics What you Runnin?

Hey, I commented on an old gear review this morning and it got me to thinking. The Acog is on its way out in the military with Sig getting a new contract with their LPVO. I've personally been running one with back up iron sights for the last two years without changing a battery yet. I know people love their Eotechs and other variables, without violating opsec, let's see what you guys think and are running on your rigs and tell me why I should or shouldn't go back to Trijicon. I have my reasons, but I'd love an outside opinion.

 

Old School ACOG guy here, and Nope, I ain't givin it up, it flat out works, and is pretty much bomb proof! No batteries, not problem!
I also run an ART-II M-1200 on my DMR, again, Old school, but it's flat out works, is scary accurate and lightning fast for follow ups!
Never had much use for battery powered optics, especially when the battery is the ONLY source of aim, so even with the NXS and the ART-II having lit reticles, nether requires a battery to run, day or night! There are advantages to some old tech, things were pretty reliable back when they were new, they are well proven, and now days, a lot less expensive!

 

I need to explore these new gadgets. I'm still happy with 80 and 90 year old optics. J.W Fecker and Unertl had it all pretty much figured out back then. My newer 24X Bausch and Lomb has so many adjustments it's like trying to set up a 35mm camera. Batteries? Tritium night sights will still be glowing in 50 years with zero maintenance and no risk of corrosion.

I've seen every imaginable new sighting device on the range in the last sixteen years. These young Marines spend a fortune on this stuff and most still can't hit the target at 50 yards. I'll have to take a bit more interest.

 

My scope has an etched reticle, but I've noticed that my eye relief is way more forgiving than the Trijicon. Yes, batteries were a consideration, but I hardly need them,, and can also dial out. Not being a fixed sight gives me the best of both worlds when considering the purposes I might need it for. JMHO. I love the ACOG, even if I have to tape most of it up.

 

Stick to the old stuff, some of new high tech could fail, batteries, EMP, etc, and make your very expensive and very well designed rifle a very inefficient club. Night and thermal sights are either out of my budget if good, or require batteries etc that seem to fail with age, temp, etc. As an 80 + male with a short budget and no logistical tail, KISS has become my motto. While it doesn't make much sense from a military tactical view point, would rather have good night vision cameras to know who is out there than a system designed to kill someone. My days of humping a pack thru the woods with a long range weapon are long gone.

 

Well I'm pretty stupid and tend to keep it simple, lol. I was just curious as to how many have made the leap from a fixed reticle to an lpvo. I'm getting a new upper in .308 which will run neither, but for the carbine I really love being able to run it out to 500 with dependable groups. I'm not running a sub moa rig, but damn if that lpvo don't make me feel like it.

 

I've looked at the EOTECH stuff ,, and a Trijicon,, was going to put one on the AR. Never used an AR with a sight system,,,back when I was in service,, the only ones with sights were Snipers , and the M47 Dragons guys. Probably a few more in reality . Let me know what you decide,, these old peepers of mine might could get used to seeing that 3-500 yrd target these days.

 

I'm running an lpvo with iron back ups right now. Tried to post a picture but it keeps telling me the file is too big. I personally like the idea of versatility. It runs good up close and out to the fence line. Plus I can illuminate the reticle if need be. I believe Sig got the Army contract, but Trijicon and Vortex are still in the game .

 

Thanks,,, I'll look into them,, I need to get something,,, just to keep up with everyone else if nothing else ,,, it surely can't hurt.

 

Thor 4,for the piggies

 

Prismatics with etched reticles. Battery illumination, but not needed and no issues with my astigmatism.

• Vortex first gen Spitfire 1x: Awesome CQB. Very fast target acquisition.
• Primary Arms Cyclops 1x: Has a 1x version of the ACOG reticle (ACSS), which Primary Arms developed and licenses to them. Wish I had gone with a 3 or 5 x, especially because the rifles they are on a suited for longer ranges, but that's not the scope's problem it's my ageing eyesight. Have also thought about replacing with 1x6 or 1x8 Primary Arms ACSS scopes.

Regular Scopes

• Leupold 3x9 Patrol: Great reticle, great glass, nice field of view. Has a "firedot" at the cross hairs that really helps with fast target acquisition and automatically turns off with inactivity. Really, really like this scope, but might eventually replace it with a Primary Arms 4x16 ACSS DMR scope.
• Leupold 2x7: Older pre "vari-x" generation. Makes my A-Bolt 22 shine. Simple reticle, no batteries, just great glass that works

 

I run a Leupold MK IV on my M14 National Match and ACOGs on my poodle shooters.

 

I still love my "Old" Night Force optics, they just flat out work!
My Beast still wears a Night Force, and It's capable of Sub MOA well past what most serious shooters are capable of!
I'm not most shooters! LOL

 

That's an awesome set up! I hear a lot of chatter about the downside to batteries, but the lpvo's don't run through batteries that fast imo. I'm getting an upper with a stainless barrel and will definitely look into that Burris. Thanks!

 

I know this to be true. Thank you BTP

 

.308 or even Creedmore makes this relevant.

 

And once you get into the really long range game, it's imperative to have top shelf glass!
I have been pushing the absolute limits of the normal calibers, and really stretching the .338 Lapua into unknown territory!

If I can see you with my naked MK-1 20/10 eyeball, I can absolutely hit within an 8" circle!

 

Iron and glass. Don't need no stinking battery's.