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Pelosi throws cold water on weapons ban

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by ColtCarbine, Feb 27, 2009.

  1. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Pelosi throws cold water on weapons ban <table class="contentpaneopen"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="2" align="left" valign="top" width="70%"> By Mike Soraghan </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="createdate" valign="top"> Posted: 02/26/09 11:59 AM [ET] </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" valign="top">
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi tossed cold water on the prospect of reinstating the assault weapons ban, highlighting Democrats’ reluctance to take on gun issues.

    Attorney General Eric Holder raised the prospect Wednesday that the administration would push to bring back the ban. But Pelosi (D-Calif.) indicated on Thursday that he never talked to her.

    The Speaker gave a flat “no” when asked if she had talked to administration officials about the ban.

    <noscript>[​IMG]</noscript> “On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,” Pelosi said at her weekly news conference. “I think it's clear the Bush administration didn’t do that.

    ”Outside of the dig at the recent Republican president, that phrase is the stock line of those who don’t want to pass new gun control laws, such as the National Rifle Association.

    The White House declined to comment on Holder's remarks, referring reporters to the Department of Justice. The DoJ did not respond to The Hill's request for comment.

  2. Ivan

    Ivan Monkey++

    pelosi defending gun rights? im oh so very conflicted.
  3. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    Say waaaaaht?
    NancyPelosi,..... doing something for us?
    Naw, can't be!
    Has to be a typo!
    I am shocked...in a scary sort of way!
    Whats' next?
    Making the: FDA, CDC, and FEMA responsible?
    Whoa, too much, brain overload!
    Need caffeine!
    If this hold true, I'll be totally amazed and dumbfounded, on her ability to actually stand up for this country's RIGHTS, AND, against the new machine....!
  4. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Wow. There are no words. Bump her up the ladder one step above Fat Ted, Boat Goat Kerry, and Al the internet inventor.

    The thing that worries me about that statement is that she is known for being full of bs at best, and has lied in the past.
  5. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++ Site Supporter

    Senate majority leader Harry Reid has said that he will fight any new AWB that comes to the Senate, he is one of the few Lib. Dems. that voted against it back in '94. Looks like this is not going to happen.

    We also need to stand vigilant, and not let our guard down. Having all those liberal democrates on the Hill is unerving to say the least.
  6. BigO01

    BigO01 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    The Dems seem to have gotten a tad smarter than they were in the 90's with Clinton running the Whitehouse .

    If you all remember the 1st AWB cost them dearly so daring to pass another especially one that never expires could perhaps do far more harm to their agenda than ever before , remember guns are just one issue of many of their Socialist plans .

    They have managed to Brainwash enough of society as it is when it comes to gun Rights anyway and a huge section of the population are nothing more than sheep for the slaughter for criminals as it is just as they like it .

    We all know this will happen one day that or a full blown actual violent revolution will erupt they know this too and know they would still lose so the smarter leaders will try to not openly rock the boat and take our Rights away instead continuing to do it quietly and just a small amount at a time even though it will take decades and longer than they shall live to see it happen .
  7. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I found this, who would have thought..............


    Reid, who was endorsed in 2004 by the National Rifle Association and has opposed a ban on assault weapons, also attributes Democrats’ recent Western success in part to candidates’ unabashed support of gun rights. “We don’t run from it anymore,” Reid said, adding, “Democrats like their weapons.

    I wonder if the following is true?


    Some of Harry Reid's record on rights legislation:

    • 2003 Cosponsor of S1805 “Gun Liability Bill” to protect the lawful manufacturers of firearms in America. Voted against the Feinstein Semi-auto Ban amendment to S1805. Rated 100% on this key legislation by the NRA. Reid's leadership made this legislation filibuster proof, but it was later killed by amendments opposed by Reid but supported by eight anti-gun Republicans. This bill will return, probably after the 2004 elections. Reid's Democratic leadership will be continue to be critical to pass this legislation.
    • Reid lead the Senate Democrats in June 2004 passing H.R.218 "National Cop Carry" that now allows active and honorably retired Law Enforcement Officers to be armed nationwide to defend against terrorism and violent criminals.
    • Voted against the Hatch-Craig gun control attack on the Second Amendment.
    • Voted against the Boxer amendment that would have federalized trigger locks.
    • Voted in favor of the Smith “Anti-Brady” Amendment to prevent taxing and registration of gun owners.
    • Voted against the Durbin Amendment that would have made it a Federal Crime to keep a gun unlocked and loaded for personal protection in the home.
    • Voted against gutting the Smith Amendment and in favor of protecting important gun owners’ rights.
    • Cosponsor of S1414 to “Repeal the D.C. Gun Ban” and restore Second Amendment rights to the citizens of our Nation’s Capital.
    • Supports arming our commercial and cargo pilots to defend against terrorists
  8. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    The Wicked Witch of the West Wing spanked her Flying Monkey for speaking out of turn. Bad Monkey! [taser1]

    Anybody still don't believe that Pelosi is the real power in DC!? She's the Puppetmaster. But she knows her Party will lose their majority rule in 2010 if they 'jump the gun' too quickly.
  9. WestPointMAG

    WestPointMAG Monkey++

    We need a flying monkey simile.
    Can anyone make that happen?
  10. QuietOne

    QuietOne Monkey++

    Will we see a photo of Pelosi and Palin deer hunting together? Wait, was that a pig I just saw flying by? [fnny]
  11. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    of course they aren't going after a weapons ban it doesn't work, they will tax the shit out of them, and ban ammo.... its really easy the 2nd doesn't protect the ammo or tax.
  12. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    You knew it had to come along.....lol look at the date:



    Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Previous Ban Expired in 2004 During the Bush Administration


    WASHINGTON, Feb. 25, 2009—

    The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.
    "As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.
    Holder said that putting the ban back in place would not only be a positive move by the United States, it would help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among drug cartels along the border.
    "I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder said at a news conference on the arrest of more than 700 people in a drug enforcement crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the U.S.
    Mexican government officials have complained that the availability of sophisticated guns from the United States have emboldened drug traffickers to fight over access routes into the U.S.
    A State Department travel warning issued Feb. 20, 2009, reflected government concerns about the violence.
    "Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and grenades," the warning said. "Large firefights have taken place in many towns and cities across Mexico, but most recently in northern Mexico, including Tijuana, Chihuahua City and Ciudad Juarez."
    At the news conference today, Holder described his discussions with his Mexican counterpart about the recent spike in violence.
    "I met yesterday with Attorney General Medina Mora of Mexico, and we discussed the unprecedented levels of violence his country is facing because of their enforcement efforts," he said.
    Holder declined to offer any time frame for the reimplementation of the assault weapons ban, however.
    "It's something, as I said, that the president talked about during the campaign," he said. "There are obviously a number of things that are -- that have been taking up a substantial amount of his time, and so, I'm not sure exactly what the sequencing will be."
    <!-- page -->
    In a brief interview with ABC News, Wayne LaPierre, president of the National Rifle Association, said, "I think there are a lot of Democrats on Capitol Hill cringing at Eric Holder's comments right now."
    During his confirmation hearing, Holder told the Senate Judiciary Committee about other gun control measures the Obama administration may consider.
    "I think closing the gun show loophole, the banning of cop-killer bullets and I also think that making the assault weapons ban permanent, would be something that would be permitted under Heller," Holder said, referring to the Supreme Court ruling in Washington, D.C. v. Heller, which asserted the Second Amendment as an individual's right to own a weapon.
    The Assault Weapons Ban signed into law by President Clinton in 1994 banned 19 types of semi-automatic military-style guns and ammunition clips with more than 10 rounds.
    "A semi-automatic is a quintessential self-defense firearm owned by American citizens in this country," LaPierre said. "I think it is clearly covered under Heller and it's clearly, I think, protected by the Constitution."

    Copyright © 2009 ABC News Internet Ventures
  13. Tracy

    Tracy Insatiably Curious Moderator Founding Member

    heh heh heh

    Sounds to me like he didn't ask permission before speaking. :lol:
  14. SLugomist

    SLugomist Monkey++

    They are just positioning for the mid term elections. Nov 2010. Jeee is that why the troop pullout will be August 2010??? I'm thinking just after the elections "BAM" AWB perm is in effect.
  15. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    What a bunch of morons, "Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and grenades,". Gee, I didn't know that I could go to a US gun shop and buy machine guns and grenades to bring into Mexico. How about shutting off the border, then we don't have to worry about it!!!
  16. fortunateson

    fortunateson I hate Illinois Nazis!

    Make no mistake. They want to take every gun, (toy and real, blackpowder and modern) from your hands dead or alive.
    Fortunately, they are too cowardly to risk their careers to do it.

    Never stop reminding them that a promising career in life insurance sales awaits them if they intend to press forward with this manure.

    Nothing against life insurance salespeople!
  17. WestPointMAG

    WestPointMAG Monkey++

    I do not know why not. They should call it death insurance. The NRA should offer insurance that pays the Insured if the libs come and take there guns away paid out in silver and gold.
  18. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    If riots do ensue, and when civil disobedience flourishes, as the economy crumbles, and when there are a few murders to play on nightly television incessantly -that is when a ban will be put through. Ammo, taxation, and incremental changes as was mentioned before, are also pertinent options and are widely accepted on the Hill.

    We already know what is going to happen, it's just a matter of guessing how much time we have now...and it does not take too much effort to realize that we are running out of time.
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