Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Quigley_Sharps, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”

    So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.
    It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?
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  2. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

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  3. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Clearly, after that, there was (and surely remains) a serious disconnect in the command and control structure. CiC is at the root of that. With all the fuss and bother about consolidation of the security arrangements and interconnection of the services lines of communication, the whole thing fell on it's ass. Nobody knew who was in charge. That gets people killed as we know. Rules of engagement become meaningless when they restrict operations to those specifically authorized from above. You MUST untie the field's hands.
  4. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

  5. HOP

    HOP Monkey+++

    IMHO it is not just apathy that caused the administration let this go as it did but some crazy idea they can BS us and play nice with the very people who are kicking our teeth in, the muslem brotherhood has receive money and arms from us and still are one of our increasing enemies.
  6. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    I am sorely tempted to send this entire thread to an X Marine aquaintance who lives near me and plans to vote for Obummer because he and his wife feel Obama never was given a proper chance to accomplish his stated campaign goals. Yes I said X Marine. This one was support services for aircraft, not a snake eater. One enlistment. I am also of the opinion that he is PW and votes as told to by his wife. Having talked to him, I have no doubt he is ignorant of current events, of the past 6 years or so.
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  7. Capt. Tyree

    Capt. Tyree Hawkeye

    Yeah, there are plenty of them out there who allow emotion and a selfish entitlement mentality to replace logical critical thinking and loyalty to our Constitution---the Law of the Land.
  8. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    I hope these revelations are enough to sink Obummer's reElection... My ballot is already in then Mail...
  9. NWPilgrim

    NWPilgrim Monkey++

    Some articles are piecing together a much more devious scenario. The "consulate" was actually a CIA facility for buying missiles and arms from Libya and shipping them to rebels in Syria via Turkey. Russia was pissed we were interfering in Syria and agent from Turkey met with Stevens the day if the attack to warn him to stop smuggling arms. He was shown Russian satellite photos of facilities in Turkey possibly showing US bought chemical weapons being readied for Syrian rebels. Chemical weapons may have intended for a false flag attack on Syrian civilians to whip up support for rebels.

    Later that day the CIA facility which was lightly guarded and chock full of cash and weapons was attacked and overrun and no sign of contents.

    Speculation is that military support was refused to keep the event low key. WH is willing to suffer embarrassment of diplomat assassination if it keeps the missiles and other arms for rebels out of the news.

    Apparently no one in CIA or pentagon is willing to be the fall guy to cover up this modern Iran-Contra like arms deal. If anything like chemical weapons or false flag op is substantiated this could totally destroy the administration.

    There is much worse stink to this debacle yet to be revealed and it seems there are many parties ready to make Obama take responsibility.
  10. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I am always skeptical when it comes to trusting the reports about high level espionage and black ops --there exists a clear line of division in this world, and we are on only one side of it. In the world of elite commando units, there is very little room left for mistakes, some would even say there is zero room for error. Perhaps this threshold could also be described as 'room to capitalize' or 'acceptable risk', but one thing is damn certain --no command level decisions are made without it being part of the initial primary instructions and orders, the general orders which are always inclusive, or as part of a necessary "frago". If, at any time, it is the latter and command authorization cannot be obtained, certain leverage is granted to units to maneuver within pre-determined boundaries and ensure the completion of the mission. In short, what I am getting at is simple --on the elite level of clandestine response units, any claims which include incompetence, failure to respond or negligence is most likely a scape goat. It's often times an attempt to seek exoneration when admitting to committing a lesser crime than the actual crime.

    The .Gov as a whole are quite inefficient, but this card of "confused", "inadequate" and "needs upgrade and consolidation" is a dangerous path. These guys wrote the book on perfecting modern warfare, shock and awe, and covert operations.
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  11. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    The vast majority don't have a clue about the murders or even where Benghazi is. They probably think it's some sort of rash.
  12. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Funny how O climbs out from under the bus to this...
  13. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus Banned

    Yep....ya just can't keep a good Terminator down.... ;)
  14. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    What i find troubling is that the FBI read the private emails of the director of the CIA. Ok, who the frick authorised that? Something smells rotten in DC
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