PFT - Former BC Premier on Chemtrails...

Too bad stupid doesn't hurt..

 

If it wasn't for Bill V , then we would be at 12% tax ++ .. HST for 2 years WTF !
Gordon Cumball was a real kumquat , sold us out.
Glad west coast has less crap floating down ..

 

So, what is the consensus here? Are Nato Governments spraying Chemtrails or not?

 

Too much add plane weight. Total crap.

 

It can hurt society, if it becomes contagious

 

They might be interviewing people with no idea what they are talking about, but can see and distinguish that there is something amiss. I wouldn't discredit it.

I've been watching the sky for as long as I have lived, dreaming of the day I would be able to play amongst the puffy white cumulus clouds. I actually hardly ever see them anymore; they seem to be replaced with contrails that hang around forever (contrails made of water vapor dissipate within minutes) and cover the sky like cirrus clouds. When I got my private pilot's license at the age of 17, boy did I play. That was quite a few years ago, and I really don't see too many days like I used to.



Although I don't completely agree with what the owner of this image has labeled, I can identify the contrail marked by the arrows. I believe that is the exhaust from the APU. If there is something in the fuel, then it would indeed dump it out like the rest of the engines.

 

What? That makes no sense... How much fuel does a KC-135 Stratotanker carry? Well 83,000 odd pounds worth. At 8.35lb/g that's nearly 10,000 gallons of water. JP4 weighs 6.4 lb/g so that's almost 13,000 gallons. Consider the lifting capacity of a C5 Galaxy...payload of ~180,000 lbs.


'Too much added plane weight.' is total crap.

Sorry man, that's just the way it is.

 

I'm no pilot, but some things here just don't make sense. "It's like it 's spraying out of the top of it's wings..." Air must move faster over the top of the airfoil to create lift. This IS where any disturbance would appear first. And changes in air pressure, ect will effect the on/off trailing as factors fluctuate.

And my comment about too much weight, was sent from my phone, and I was having a little difficulty with getting it to post correctly, but breaks down to follow the money. Anything added to the weight of the craft, MUST be paid for in added fuel and money. That's physics, not opinion. Every flight would be less profitable. This is not going to happen on commercial aircraft. (What military aircraft do or do not do is up for debate, because they are not controlled by the money, but by orders)
Anything to be sprayed has volume and weight, and must have machinery to spray. So I would NOT be watching the skies for evidence, but would be going through the ground mechanics who service these planes. parts lists, buying schedules, book keeping, fuel records will show more fuel being used than the load requires. Physics and money....very few things can hide from physics and money.

Just pick a number of say 1000lbs of aluminum particulates, there must be some volume and weight if you intend to leave such a trail for so many miles, so that added weight leaving the ground MUST have fuel to lift it. even if it were added to jet fuel (Don't know quite what that would do to the engines) it would still be dead weight and must be lifted. That added fuel has weight and must be offset with added fuel as well, and has volume that will reduce the length of the possible flight, because the tank sizes do not grow for added fuel, or for added volume of particulates.

Add in the added costs of the aluminum(dust which requires machine work to produce which is added money) the added fuel costs, reduced flights lengths, and/ or more refueling points. Each time a plane refuels it uses even more fuel to drop into heavier air and to take off again and climb back up to thinner/ faster/ more cost effective air. (again, more fuel costs)

Now add in the fact of Youtube, FaceBook, and a dozen other outlets. If just One Ground mechanic decides to film an inspection of the aircraft, and explain what each part does. what fits, what is not aircraft, residues cleaned, lab results, (any actual science) any exposure of the real spraying equipment that must exist for this to be happening as described, then he would be set for life as the Great Savior of The People and completely untouchable. There would be parades in the streets, planes torn apart on runways by angry mobs, and lawsuits from every man woman and child on Earth claiming damages (Not just in the USA) ranging from coughs to premature deaths. We live in a sue-happy society. If there was a way to sue for it, it would be done already.

Don't show me another contrail video and tell me what it means, I use to do magic tricks, and i KNOW your eyes can not be trusted, (I even posted a series of videos of the science behind magic here on the Monkey) and the guy filming has his own ideas of what is "really" going on. No matter what the truth is, his view is twisted by what he is wanting to find. "Thank God, we are above that, or we'd be dead right now" (opinion and fear=noise.)

So show me the sprayers, the fuel logs, the mechanics reports, the lab results of residues found on the sprayers, follow the money involved. residues from holding tanks hidden in aircraft, compliance from aircraft personnel, Real facts that can be weighed and measured. Science not opinion.

 

And on that note, I will exit this conversation.

 

Ah thanks for your clarification. Adding follow the money/do the math completely changes the entire premise of your orig post! Can't disagree with that in the least. I was merely addressing the orig post as it was posted.

 

Half way through your movie. some testable data. A great deal of supposition, impression, and theory. I will finish it, but I will state this right now. It a stupid approach. it would be much smarter to simply put the dust in orbit. No health issues, long term more cost effective.