Pill Poppers

I’m sitting here in severe p neuropathy pain reading this. I’ve tried everything . Next will be pain management. So please do not run down pill poppers as you call them,one day you might need them yourselves.My pain rating is a 8 which is pretty severe. A month ago I had a spinal cord stimulator put in,a big money maker at a cost close to $60,000.00.and it has made my pain worst. What can you do? So please do not call someone a pill popper until you have walked in their shoes,please.

 

My post is obviously not referring to legitimate usage for pain management. I’ve also walked many miles in many different shoes.

 

I believe Meat may have meant something different. But because he is a man of few words, his true point of the thread is not clear.

 

@oldman11, I'm not talking about true pain & pain management but addict like behavior.

 

I, like Meat says ,, am not bashing the ones that need and rely on the pills. It’s the I guess you call them the recreational abusers , that tend to get addicted, and then continue on the downward spiral that inevitably will cost our tax dollars to house , feed , ween them off of their choices. My daughter was prescribed an opioid, for a shoulder injury from a car wreck , that wasn’t her fault, for 8 freakin years. My daughter kept telling the doctor she didn’t want to be on pills forever. The doc said we’ll figure something out. My daughter is independent and doesn’t tell me everything, and she was embarrassed to tell me that she had become addicted to them. Her addiction was physical, not mental. Which means her body aches and suffered the withdrawals which I guess was telling her brain she needed the drug. But , the problem was the doctor for keeping her on them for that amount of time. So , you can see I’m not bashing legitimate needers ,, and to some people, that may be your only option. But for a doctor to put a 23 year girl on that stuff for that period of time,,, he needs his ass stomped,, and run out of the profession for not doing his job . If he can’t do it , then refer them to someone that can.
Rant over,,,

 

A lot of the problem is the western medical training is to treat/manage symptoms instead of treating the cause. Which is great if your the drug company

 

Bingo!

There ain't any money in cures.

 

But there is in pain management. This month's Consumer's Report has an article that covers some of the alternative approaches.

 

That's exactly right.

 

I never hear about taking personal responsibility. Is there really anyone who hasn't heard that meth or heroin or fentanyl is poison?
WTF? otherwise, I think people should be left alone as long as they cause no problems. Pain and dealing with life, everyone has a different way they cope.

 

Problem is when the pill is gone then what ? What do these people become ?
Whether it is prescribed or not , unless you are prepared with alternatives ,post SHTF will be a much bigger world of hurt.
I have seen the Jeckel and Hyde shift in people on marijuana and lived among many guys that did drugs and it not pretty .
My argument is that it is so easy to get hooked and few have the courage to choose alternatives.

 

I broke 3 vertebrae in 1985. Different era perhaps because no surgery and pretty much no pills. Not judging/bragging just an FYI. Overcoming pain with the mind is possible. My Gramps cured his hemorrhoids the same way. With his mind. All true. All true.

 

I've had hemorrhoids since they first came out ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

I see what you did there.

 

After cancer surgery and a triple heart bypass, I greatly appreciate pain meds so they have a definite purpose.
However I made sure to be careful and as the pain decreased to decrease the meds. I titrated down and was able to stop, in fact there were some left over.

But I'm not special, it's just self awareness & common sense.

That said, I'm a former drunk and I took my share of drugs. It was quite a task to sober up, so my defenses are high against anything that could jeopardize my life.
I took those pain meds knowing it could be a slippery slope but they were necessary & forewarned is forearmed.
I didn't get sober, change myself & my life to throw it away again.

I don't blame most folks who get hooked on meds, big pharma incentivises it.
The self awareness to get right is a matter of personal responsibility and at some point a choice is made, consciously or subconsciously.
We see the results of those choices every day.

I'll help anyone who needs help, but I won't co-sign their bs.

 

Most of the pills they're poppin' aren't illicit drugs but anti-depressants and such marketed to them to fix all that ails them. It's the American Way! A pill or two a day to keep the doldrums at bay.

 

I was trying to avoid this thread.....
but the dam think keeps popping up

It is NOT our place to tell people if they should or should not take opiods, pills etc.
That is between each individual, their Dr, and their own convictions.

IF someone needs opiods great. I dont like to hang around people who are on them, but who am I that I can sit in judgement and condemnation of another person. I have not walked in their shoes.

Some of you might want to start reading yoru Bible again. Just Saying.
Mathew 7:1-5

 

I didn’t realize this thread would be offensive to some. Oops. My apologies.