I have a plethora (I really like this word after watching the three amigos) of portable propane and white gas heaters. Am getting rid of the old Coleman white gas ones. I have used mr buddy's and and not convinced they are safe. I have watched several installs of this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08T1JRB5R/?tag=survivalmonke-20 Not this exact model but similar ones. I have a palatial outhouse, yes I said palatial. It is about 45 ft sq but it has a 14 foot roof peak. I want to use this heater to keep me bum warm whilst on throne doing the king's business. I digress. Does anyone have experience with these units. It is on the list of do to and will post my progress.
I have the self contained kit version. They seem to work ok running open loop and do really well closed loop.
Ok educate me on this. The Amazon web page shows a bunch of parts. If I order one of these, will I have a complete diesel-fired heater with fuel tank, fan and combustion chamber?
Amazon.ca : Diesel Heater 12V 5KW Diesel Air Heater with LCD Monitor,Remote Control,10L Tank Parking Heaters for Trucks,Boat,Touring Car,Bus Im in also if all can be explained ,,educate me on this. Sloth
These things have their roots going back at least 35 years to a line of heaters made by a firm called Eberspacher, German I think. I believe there might have been a couple more firms back then doing the same. Cummins repackaged an Eberspacher unit with their own electronic controls and called it Thermostar and sold it from the later 80’s into the mid 90’s as I recall. Truck drivers would often let their trucks idle overnight in cold weather to keep the cab and engine warm especially if they were in the sleeper. That was inefficient with the fuel. These Eberspacher heater units were plumbed into a truck’s cooling system with some solenoid valves and pumps. That could heat just the cab with the regular heater core and heater blower as this unit would pump hot water through it. It could heat the engine block, both or even operate on a timer or thermostat mode. They could even be rigged to keep the diesel fuel tanks warm to avoid waxing. They used a good bit of battery juice running the circulation pumps and valves all night but used far less fuel than idling an engine all night and in cold climates they could often pay for themselves in just a year or two. Over time smaller units came out. With the advent of high pressure common rail fuel systems, diesels were much easier to start in the cold and engine block heaters were far less necessary. The heaters evolved to just be hot air cabin heaters to warm a truck cab before a mission or to keep the sleeper warm over night. These were also far less demanding on the electrical system over night. They are still typically diesel as that is the fuel most trucks still use and gasoline has some potential hazard issues diesel doesn’t. Like everything else, the Chinese ripped off the ideas and made clones or similar products and many of those are what you see being used for all kind of heater needs. I played a bit with the old Thermostar things back in the day, but have no experience with the current hot air units. I just know about bigger ones being used on trucks, buses, some RV’s, etc. to keep the “hotel” loads on the heat rejection from the engine being too high thus keeping the engine from reaching and maintaining proper temperatures for emission control. What I do see in the Amazon photos of several of these are the following: Heater unit Fuel tank, fuel pump, fuel filter, fuel line Hot air duct, vent cover, air filter Flexible metal exhaust tubing, intake combustion air tube Electronic controls, remote control, wire harness Hardware, hose clamps, zip ties, mounting plate, etc. to do the install. Looks like most of what you need for a permanent installation is in the kit. In case you don’t understand Oil Pan’s comment about open or closed loop. Open is the thing is just on and you turn it off or on as needed. Closed loop employs a cabin thermostat that kicks it on or off like on your house furnace. Stay warm AT
Thanks @Airtime Yes had one on a vessel / sailboat , wasabi / Eberspacher , German unit. I was making sure they were the same thing i was thinking . Diesel is the farms go juice , & write off ,, wood shop has electric heat only , winter is when i need tools warm . Buddys right now are used ,, But Fiat is needed to be used or burnt . Sloth
In the olden days when I was a kid, we had a cabin in the mountains that used a fuel-oil heater. kerosene Basically, a gravity-fed oil stove that had no fan or pumps, that seemed to be very efficient. I wonder if diesel would work the same. Either way you go a stove pipe is going to be required.
Those "pot burners" are illegal these days, too many fires due to incomplete understanding of how they work and misuse.
We lived in a Pot Burning Diesel Cookstove heated cabin for 40 years... with no issues other than Chimney Sweeping once a year... Very reliable... Just do NOT have Propane use in the same building...
Saw on a Youtube video, a guy broke down the expensive Webasto dry air diesel heater (used in RVs, trucks camper vans, boats, etc.) and the cheap Chinese copies. There is a good reason the Webasto is more expensive, the difference in build quality was very apparent. That Webasto will still be going strong when one is installing their fourth or fifth Chinese copy.
There are also several 'self-contained' diesel heaters. Just add DC and plumb the vent into your...throne room. This will provide positive air pressure to move...errr, stack gas out the overhead vent of your privy. Sample of one. (use self contained dieset heater) most on the UT are Hencho en China
5KW will indeed warm your perch -- Also, I'd be careful that the privy vent is at least the same size as the heater vent, preferably slightly larger. You do not need any obstruction to exhaust gas flow from the throne room. In fact it would be a good thing to ensure a draft INTO the poop chute room to make sure the royal tush isn't breathing fumes.
Also, Webasco makes a gasoline heater for van installs Had something like this on my VW Safari back in the day. Quality unit.
Thinking of putting it right beside the throne with air at ankle level. Put it on a timer for early morning. I need to insulate the ceiling and install a fan for a downdraft. All thing I should have done long before now. This will provide positive air pressure to move...errr, stack gas out the overhead vent of your privy. Sample of one. (use self contained dieset heater) most on the UT are Hencho en China
