President Obama

Black jack I could care less how much you make, I care where my money goes.plain and simple...
I find that most who are for it at any cost are the ones who are not working or dont get benefits.
I pay 1500.00 a month for my benefits package.
I'm like EL I found my work just because of the benefits package...... I have turned down 100k + a year jobs because of no benefits.
Ask Melbo how he like the benefits he is able to get from the company we work at.
He packed up his whole family and move 2k miles for it.
Its ok if you loose your ability to keep your cool around me some of the time, I do it too with some people and some subject's, the mere act that you can admit it says a lot about your character and thats probably why i like you even though we are on opposite sides of the fence on some subjects,so be it.
I was merely warning you to not turn this into your own inflammatory thread and attacking people who respond to what you asked for...." their opinions", It's due to the fact I have seen you do it before is why i said that.
I just ask that we act like adults and discuss this and if "we" cant then I will lock it.

 

No need to delete it, just talk through it in a decent manner.

 

I do not want free health care; the condition of my carcass is my business and duty to care for. I don't want to pay for anyone else's either. And I am uninsured (except for Medicare) because the price is too high. Fortunately, I'm healthy.

 

accepted

 

I do think its a fair example, it show how the government has taken care of people under their medical watch why would they treat you or anyone else any different? I have a lot of card carrying family members in my family and I know first hand about how well we are treated.I don't expect it to be any different for you or anyone else when they take over.

 

the year I had to pay over $80K in taxes was the year I decided I would do everything I can to minimize my tax bill. That is an absurd amount to pay just because some jackass in washington thinks I need to pay my fair share.

the next year I had to pay estimated taxes based upon the previous years income the next year....yea, thats right. $15K per quarter......now that sucked because the next year was my worst year.......so, I paid $140K in taxes over two years and got some refund on the bad year, but that is a joke.

F that. I don't wish any problems on anyone and I sympathize for Blackjacks physical ailments. I am fine with .gov run healthcare if they cut 2x as much other spending. Kill the TARP and all the other stuff. Just cut spending an let the .gov live like the people should live with limited debt.

Debt = Slavery = .gov over spending

 

Don't provide services to Illegals....drops buy a large amount. If healthcare is run by the government it will be run into the ground. They will dictate the prices for all treatements and walla....no one will want to become a doctor because it doesn't produce the rate of return.

As of a national insurance policy, there are 1300 choices out there without the government making it 1301. There are options out there for people, but it is cheaper to go to the emergency room and never pay the bill because the hospital can't turn you away. An office visit is $75 bucks and all the spanish nurses in the pediatrician office in my town know how to get the money reimbursed by some organization if you are out of work.

For instance, I don't have health insurance at the moment. We pay cash for our services. It took 40 minutes for my wife to pay the bill because they never had someone pay in cash. It was $60. Then, when they heard we didn't have insurance, they directed us to some agency that would reimburse us for the cost of the visit to which my wife retorted, "Why should someone have to pay my bill?". The ladies behind the desk didn't understand. 4 different ladies told her to do the same thing.

Its called personal responsiblity.

 

I saw zero's speech to the AMA. In it he cited McAllen, Texas as having such a high medical cost due, according to him, their using too many uneeded procedures ( more or less what he was saying, I don't recall the exact language). I was shouting at the TV (which happens frequently when I watch this moron).
I just spent the last 4 years in the McAllen area and I know nurses who work in their system. The reason they have such a high medical cost is all of the Mexicans (not just illegals but thousands that cross the border legally everyday just to go to an emergency room for treatment) that they have to treat. I know a guy whose wife worked in a McAllen hospital and was quitting because she couldn't take it anymore. She said it was horrible. The Mexicans would flock there every day from Mexico and it was like a third world clinic every day.

 

here is how they are handling this in California:

http://projects.latimes.com/hospitals/emergency-rooms/no/closed/list/

Basically, the hospitals are closing their ERs to combat the free users. That is a solution to the ER medicinal non-american citizen abusers.

 

Thank God I'm not the only one out here doing this....
I thought I may be crazy...........
or on second thought you could be too ....
we are in trouble ....lol

 

Well, add me to the nutzoid list. I don't scream and shout, but I do derisive snorts and cuss. Gad, what rubbish he emits. (Gotta admit that pelosi and the fruit have him beat hands down.)

 

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ABC TURNS PROGRAMMING OVER TO OBAMA; NEWS TO BE ANCHORED FROM INSIDE WHITE HOUSE

Tue Jun 16 2009 08:45:10 ET

On the night of June 24, the media and government become one, when ABC turns its programming over to President Obama and White House officials to push government run health care -- a move that has ignited an ethical firestorm!

Highlights on the agenda:

ABCNEWS anchor Charlie Gibson will deliver WORLD NEWS from the Blue Room of the White House.

The network plans a primetime special -- 'Prescription for America' -- originating from the East Room, exclude opposing voices on the debate.

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Late Monday night, Republican National Committee Chief of Staff Ken McKay fired off a complaint to the head of ABCNEWS:

Dear Mr. Westin:

As the national debate on health care reform intensifies, I am deeply concerned and disappointed with ABC's astonishing decision to exclude opposing voices on this critical issue on June 24, 2009. Next Wednesday, ABC News will air a primetime health care reform “town hall” at the White House with President Barack Obama. In addition, according to an ABC News report, GOOD MORNING AMERICA, WORLD NEWS, NIGHTLINE and ABC’s web news “will all feature special programming on the president’s health care agenda.” This does not include the promotion, over the next 9 days, the president’s health care agenda will receive on ABC News programming.

Today, the Republican National Committee requested an opportunity to add our Party's views to those of the President's to ensure that all sides of the health care reform debate are presented. Our request was rejected. I believe that the President should have the ability to speak directly to the America people. However, I find it outrageous that ABC would prohibit our Party's opposing thoughts and ideas from this national debate, which affects millions of ABC viewers.

In the absence of opposition, I am concerned this event will become a glorified infomercial to promote the Democrat agenda. If that is the case, this primetime infomercial should be paid for out of the DNC coffers. President Obama does not hold a monopoly on health care reform ideas or on free airtime. The President has stated time and time again that he wants a bipartisan debate. Therefore, the Republican Party should be included in this primetime event, or the DNC should pay for your airtime.

Respectfully,
Ken McKay
Republican National Committee
Chief of Staff

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ABCNEWS Senior Vice President Kerry Smith on Tuesday responded to the RNC complaint, saying it contained 'false premises':

"ABCNEWS prides itself on covering all sides of important issues and asking direct questions of all newsmakers -- of all political persuasions -- even when others have taken a more partisan approach and even in the face of criticism from extremes on both ends of the political spectrum. ABCNEWS is looking for the most thoughtful and diverse voices on this issue.

"ABCNEWS alone will select those who will be in the audience asking questions of the president. Like any programs we broadcast, ABC News will have complete editorial control. To suggest otherwise is quite unfair to both our journalists and our audience."

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