About a year ago I got whacked in the mouth with a 20 pound bag of ice that had melted a bit and refroze and was effectively a block of ice at that point. It knocked all of my front teeth very loose and broke some bone that held them in. It also started a chain of events in my mouth that lead to gum disease and very rapid bone loss. Most dentist offices at the time were closed and I was left to my own devices to deal with constant infections below the gum line and wobbly teeth that never did tighten back up. SO here we are a year later and a real mess in my mouth. I have seen three different dentist in the last month and the conclusion of all is that all of my teeth need to go and that I need to get a top denture and 4 implants in the lower to clip a partial denture onto. There is just no option for saving any of the existing teeth. Very annoying because I have always taken very good care of my teeth and never had a cavity in my life. I did lose all of my molars in my 20s half from a log chain that broke and slapped me in the jaw and the other side from getting whacked with a 2x4, so taking care of the pre molars and front teeth was high on my list. Which I did up until the block of ice and as best as I could after the block of ice. So I went to one of the three dentist two days ago to get all of the teeth yanked at least that was my understanding. I sit down in the chair and am ready for the annoying shots and the dentist comes in and says we will remove 24 and 25 today and next week take two more out. I am like wtf do mean, we are pulling them all out today! Noooo he says I won't use that much anesthetic at one time and you would not be able to tolerate the pain removing all of them would cause. Pretty sure I said some rather unkind things to him when I got out of the chair, ripped the bib off and tossed it at him and said we remove them all today or none and walked out. So this left me with a problem one of the teeth is particularly annoying or rather was. I needed it gone about 2 months ago. The tooth itself not a problem but it is the one where all of the infections seem to start at. So I went home pulled yanked, twisted and tugged and would get the tooth pulled up and it would slip and slam right back down. Only think I could figure is the nerve and meaty stuff at the bottom was made of fat people spandex and would stretch way out but not break. Pliers and pulling teeth BAD lol seen enough crushed crowns from people using that method to skip it totally. So I called a Uncle on the Rez that pulls a lot of teeth for folks using traditional methods as IHS Dentist are pretty much mouth butchers. Spent some time listening to his suggestions and learning the method he uses to extract already loose teeth and how to build the very simple tool he uses to do it. First this is not a painless method of removing a tooth but it is not horrible either. I would strongly suggest that folks only use this method as a last resort when they can't use a dentist......... or Elder that has extracted thousands of teeth. Find a nice straight 10 inch long strong stick that is about 3/4 inch diameter. Then take about a foot of strong sinew and tie it on to one end of the stick. In my case I did not have any cured and softened sinew on hand. So used non stretching braided line that I mark fence rows and garden rows with. Tie a slip knot and loop on the other end of the string/cord. Slip the loop around the tooth and push the slip knot at tight as you can get it up against the tooth. Line the string coming off the stick straight above the tooth and slip knot and start turning the stick reeling the slack in the string up tight. This is where it starts to hurt continue firmly and steadily turning the stick applying continuous pressure to the tooth in a straight up direction until the tooth pops out and breaks the meaty stuff and nerve. Little chance of breaking the crown or root. From the time I started twisting the stick with the slack out of the string it took less than 3 second for the nerve and meaty stuff to break and the tooth to pop out clean. Almost no bleeding maybe 5 minutes of blood seep from the hole. Did have the usual nerve pain in the teeth on the left side which is common after breaking a nerve connected to the main nerve. That lasted about a hour and then just stopped. I did not use any pain killers, numbers or even a drink of the whiskey. Wanted to see how bad or well it was without that stuff. To be honest the novicaine shots at the dentist office hurt more than pulling this tooth did. I imagine that experience would vary greatly from individual to individual based on each person personal level of pain tolerance and squimishness. So here is the first tooth I pulled using this method this afternoon. No it ain't a pretty tooth and that is what a year of plaque build up below the gum line looks like after a year without getting a pro cleaning and no flossing with one infection after another. And as I suspected it was a big meaty nerve made out of fat people spandex Took the pic of it and decided what the heck and went back out to the shop and pulled 3 more teeth for all four of the bottoms between the canines. Going to get the canines and pre molars in the morning. Figured after four I would take a break have a few shots of the wild turkey 101 and sleep a few hours. Woke up 4 hours later with zero pain no blood and the holes pretty much plugged up good with coagulated blood. Anyway I can say that this method works with minimal trauma and pain and is fast and effective. As with any tooth extraction even if done by the dentist there is the risk of nerve damage and infection. I just got to point that I was fed up with getting dicked around by dentist and them telling me what I could and could not handle Seems to me though that my dental insurance should be paying me the same $175 per per tooth that they would pay the sissy dentist. I am going to leave a pre molar on each side to clip a lower partial denture onto since the specialist that does the implants can't even do the consultation until the middle of december and the implant post around 3 months after that and then the crown of the post 6 months after that. And the clip on partial I get now can be adjusted to fit on the implants that will replace the two pre molars that I don't pull.. when they get pulled to screw the post in. Like I said I don't recommend pulling your own teeth with any method if there is a dentist option available. I don't expect most folks will have the block of ice to the faces and the whole chain reaction of problems from it that I have had. But for a emergency extraction of a painful tooth it ain't hard to find a stick and some string and end what could be debilitating pain without making the problem worse. Sissy Dentist is not going to happy that I pulled them myself when I go back to get fitted for the partial denture. I am going to hold off on pulling the top teeth and see if he wants to rethink his position on only pulling 2 at a time. If he doesn't well I will pull them to and he can lose that pay day as well! I can say that right now My mouth feels better than it has in a year of delays, pointless consultations and wasted time talking instead of doing.
i pulled nine of mine.i would get them loose,pull them up enough to get my fingernail under and pull until they came out. when the nerve broke the pain was over. i was born with bad teeth and had my uppers replaced when i was 21. I wish I had been born with false teeth,eat anything i want with no pain.
I tried to pull that first one with fingers after a few hours of pulling up and it sling shotting back down I decided I needed a better plan LOL. I thought about ordering a set of extraction tools from Amazon. Then thought hmmm wonder how we did it before metal tools came to America? Now I know and it works remarkably well. The described method of extracting a broken off root primitive style......on the other hand , yeah I will pass on that. Only problem I had with the stick string twist method were on the canines this morning. They had much deeper roots and it took several attempts on each to get the loop locked down and not pull off the tooth. Had to push the string below the gum line all the way around for the string to get a solid grip on the tooth and then boom out in a second or two. Forceps would have been the better tool for the job on those two teeth. Now I am just going to be eating a lot hamburger and stew for the next couple of months until I get fitted for the partial denture and get it stuck in my mouth. Total time to extract the 8 teeth between the two pre molars I kept was around 10 minutes pain level for me on a 1-10 scale 10 being high....... 3-4ish. Down sides general nerve pain, numb cheeks, lol the molars I lost 30 years ago hurt.... didn't expect that bit of phantom pain. And the nose feels funny. Was told to expect that and that it will be gone in 1-3 days. Just that main nerve and nerve cluster where every nerve in the face meets on either side telling me that they are less than pleased with me. Biggest upside my mouth feels 1000x better right now than it has in the last year!
I got a pretty good wack to the mouth from a 1 inch breaker bar about 5 feet long with a 2 1/2 inch impact socket, knocked out most of my right side upper and two lower, and broke a couple on the left side! A few trips to dentists and all said I would ether need full replacement with dentures or implants due to having brittle teeth with oversized roots on top of all the damage! I chose the implants and it was a full day operation with me out cold! Woke up with a new mouth full of shiney new implants and zero pain! They had to really do some work on my gums to get things to work, I had a mouth full of stitches for several weeks, and then deal with having them pulled after, but damn, implants are the way to go if you gotta do something! Bonus was they fixed all my other issues, such as an over bite that was difficult to live with, couldn't Bite with the front teeth, and alignment issues, now I have a Hollywood smile!
I had all of mine yanked out. on the same day. Don't know why your doc didn't want to do them all ,, unless he could make more money for another office visit. After he snatched the teeth,, then I had to go to another doctor because the dentist lost part of a tooth up in my nasal cavity. He was farting around with it ,, and finally said he was going to have to schedule me for surgery in a few days to get it out ,,, I said bullshit,, get it out now,, he said he was scared he was going to hurt me ,,, I said if I scream like a schoolgirl,, then you can stop ,,, otherwise get it out . So after digging, and prodding,, he got it out. But then said I needed to go lay up in the hospital for the night so I didn't bleed out thru the night.
Would love to take that route with implants but I could buy new tricked out dodge 3500 for what that would cost and my dental insurance caps out at $20,000 per year. Just the two to have something solid to clip onto are going to burn me for around $6000 with bone grafts to make them work. Might revisit that when I turn 60 but right now I just am not going to spend that kind of cash out of pocket
Half the dentist around here won't even pull teeth, they want to send you to a oral surgeon. about 15% of them will pull but will only do the 2 maybe 3 at most. Found ONE that says he will pull all the top ones at the same sitting and does not see what the problem the rest are having with pulling them, nice straight roots, the teeth are already all loose and pulling mine are about as easy as it can get. So scheduled that for the 20th of this month. I thing part of the malfunction here is the two younger generations in general. A lot of the new dentist are millenials and woke and most of the patients now are Y and Z and have to be handled with care because they are so fragile. Like I told the one I walked out on "You let me worry about the pain and you worry about the pulling." he replies "Oh NO that is not how it works now!" Candy Ass Sissy Dentist! Everytime I think about that wasted drive to town...... My pressure gauge starts going up!
I got extremely lucky in that my commercial insurance covered most of the costs, and my wife's best friends husband's dental business was able to do the whole job at a deeply discounted rate, and did a first class job! I ended up with about $50k in work, and it cost me around $6k out of pocket! The V.A. Just laughed and said hell no, so I was on my own!
That has pretty much been my experience with the VA since I got out and why I am a dependent on the wifes .gov insurances. I have no complaints about the dental, it just caps at 20k on implants, dentures, reconstruction and partials. Thinking about adding however many implants that 20k will cover each year and drawing it out over 3-4 years. Copay is $20 per visit whether I spend all $20,000 or $50 and caps at $200 in copay total. Could be worse lol could be the plan I had before I got married that had $2250 per year limit and $175 copays. My rough plan though is to get the molar implants done first on bottom, then the top molars, then the bottom front and finish up with top front. And just pay for new partials each upgrade out of pocket. Already know that the specialist guys are going to have to do A LOT of bone graft work to build back everything that was lost. Still blows my mind that I went from good thick bone a year ago, to teeth just barely hanging on in real shallow sockets. Sit here often and wonder WHERE DID ALL THAT BONE GO SO FAST!
