Progressive insurance opening Big Brother driver watch

I saw that quite a while back.....lame if you ask me.

I don't need big brother knowing if I want to clear the carbon out of my engines once in a while.

 

I have Progressive for my bike - Flo gave me the best rate around, and it has dropped by half since I have been with them.
I had thought about dropping my van from the lizard and going with Flo for it too, but no way would I hook up this 'tattletale' gizmo! Circumstances arise where I have to 'floor it' every so often - don't need to advertise that nationwide......

I expect this kind of device to eventually be mandated for installation permanently in all new cars...... Big Brother loves his Control Toys.

 

It doesn't really record anything that Ford Sync, OnStar, and other vehicle electronics haven't been recording for quite sometime. This device from Progressive has actually been around itself for over 10 years.

 

True, which is a good reason I would NEVER buy a vehicle so equipped - NO On-Star or other tattlers.

 

I wouldn't get onstar for the same reason.

 

If you've driven anything newer than a 1996, you've driven something that can tattle on you. It's not that sat tracking I worry about, it's the OBDII recording everything the vehicle does. I figure if they're gonna track me they'll do it whether its via onstar or other means.

 

That would never work here half these people don't have insuranse and wont have it until the welfare starts to pay for it.

 

The difference between OBDII and this is ownership of the data. In most states if you own the vehicle, you own the data and it takes a court order to take it from you.

This data is signed over to Progressive and they can give it to anyone they want and you don't have any right to due process.

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It's part of the risk one takes if they want to be part of the program and if they did violate your privacy they'd be in a heap of sheet.

The Progressive Corporation — Snapshot Privacy Statement

Personally I wouldn't sign up for it or agree to it anyways, but what I was saying is this is very little different than the data collection most people don't even realize their vehicle is already doing. I don't care if it takes a court order or not I don't even want the data to exist in the first place.

 

And that I agree with 100%.

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Conspiracy theory confirmed.
GM got caught doing it. Now Lexus and insurance companies are got caught doing it.
GM and Lexus have been selling driver info to data brokers and the data brokers sell your information to insurance companies.
GM got caught a few years ago and supposedly stopped selling it, at least on the open market.
Insurance companies also use their app if you have it down loaded on your phone to see how often you drive, where you go and what time you're doing it and how fast you go.

 

Farmers has had a discount for members that allow tracking for several years.

It didn't work for me because I got gigged for being on phone constantly while driving (audio books)

 

While my daily driver is a 21st Century vehicle the cars that I love to drive are from the latter half of the 20th Century. They have carburetors, and no computers or chips. Thank Almighty GOD that I live in ALABAMA, where we have no vehicle inspections, nor do any of the surrounding states!
ALABAMA, where the State government attempts to actually educate our young people, doesn't pass laws to ban our guns, cars, gas stoves, businesses, etc.! We have the prettiest women, play the best football, we vote Republican, we are a Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground state, also an Open Carry/Constitutional Carry state, we are a Bail State, our jails are full, and we execute certain criminals! This is GOD'S COUNTRY!

 

That's the problem. There's no context. Yeah you're phone is active but you could be listening to streaming radio or something that doesn't involve looking at of fucking with your phone.
At that point it's no different than the radio.

 

I don't have that on my phone so??? I have very little on my phone. Use it for calls and text and that's about it.

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I don't think I do... checked can't see much so?

 

Some of the newer cars you can disconnect the little qualcom cellular chip from the navigation system. Some you can’t because it is a built in. In mine it is a separate board attached to the main board by a few connections.

 

Big Brother IS watching you! Thanks to the records/data bases maintained and shared by businesses, banks, credit card companies, cell phone and internet providers, healthcare providers, insurance companies, and a host of others too numerous to list, Big Brother knows EVERYTHING about you! The sad thing is we have done this to ourselves, all those forms and questionnaires that you truthfully filled out, those manufactures rebates and warranties that you signed up for, that smart phone in your hip pocket, that smart watch on your wrist, that car you drive, Insurance on ALL of your guns, PM and cash, purchases made using checks or credit/debit cards. organizations you belong to, internet searches and sites you visit regularly, etc., etc., etc.! The government doesn't need to spend money on satellites, drones or operatives to follow us around, we tell them where we are 24/7/365, who we are with and what we are doing! And it will only get worse! With tag scanners, facial recognition technology, security cameras and drones you can't even travel to a nearby city without being detected and tracked.
However, we have proof that Big Brother isn't ready to clamp down on us just yet, because we are not in a concentration camp...or maybe we are.

 

I think this goes here.
Tesla autopilot is a dystopian nightmare of surveillance.
Tesla Autopilot Worker Horrified by What Job Actually Entails

 

I used to have Flo's Insurance on my motorcycle some years back. Luckily never had to make a claim. Nowadays I would avoid them, I detest this Nanny State nonsense.