Proposal would label bullets sold in Illinois with serial numbers

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by chimo, Sep 2, 2016.

  1. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    This is too freakin funny. I figure we can have a fun thread coming up with all the ways to circumvent this wackiness.

    Proposal would label bullets sold in Illinois with serial numbers

  2. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    Imagine all the nice brass I can collect at the range (various local ranges and even ranges from all over the country) that is "registered" to someone else...and can then be reloaded with bullets that I casted myself.

    Imagine if I then used those reloaded shells to go on a shooting spree...the cops would collect those casings and find each one registered to a different person that they would have to track down and question. I smell some good overtime and travel per diem for the cops!
  3. svjoe

    svjoe Angry Monkey

    So, are stores there currently tracking/recording ammo purchases? If not, this whole thing is an exercise in futility......

    Regardless, this whole plan just asinine........
  4. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    I've heard this mentioned a few times over the last few years . This could open up the possibilities that if you didn't secure your ammo , and someone steals it and uses it in a crime , then you could be held accountable as well . Now , I have not heard this instance mentioned , but with all the other stupid laws being enacted , you can't count this one out .
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  5. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    That would be bad enough, but I thot it said s/n on bullets. I can see the microscope in use trying to read an s/n off a recovered slug. What a hoot. Maybe chips would work better?
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  6. Lone Gunman

    Lone Gunman Draw Varmint!

    Can I reserve, '666' for my guns? ;)
  7. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    BBQ, Cheddar or sour cream & onion flavor?

    Makes as much sense as serialized "bullets."
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  8. Oltymer

    Oltymer Monkey++

    Chicago is having a tough time this year, lots of innocent people have been gunned down, some killed. So, with some of the most stringent gun control laws in the nation, which I might point out as a total failure and only goes to show that when government outlaws guns, only outlaws will have guns, they decide to move on to ammo control, which we all know will work about as well as their gun control laws.

    Just as an outside observer it seems their problem might have something to do with the gangs there, but why go to the root of the problem when you can cut off limbs instead, which is so much easier.

    Maybe they can work out a deal with the Philippines and get President Duterte and some of his cops over to run the city a few months and clean out the gangs with brutal force, which seems to be a logical solution at this point...Oh wait, I forgot...Liberals.
  9. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    Sonia Harper is stupid, and stupid politicians are more dangerous than a gang in a gun free zone on pay day. She should have STUPID tattooed on her forehead in caps, then be locked up for her own good.
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  10. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Another idiotic proposal by more idiotic loud mouth politicians that haven't a clue what they are talking about but want to give the impression they are doing something to rectify the problem of the gang killings and crime. The solution is quite simple as @Oltymer pointed out. Kill them. Kill them then allow all good citizens to arm themselves to protect themselves so that if this scourge comes back they are prepared. Chicago politicians are responsible for what is happening there. It's a paradise for criminals of all sorts. Shoot'em down in the streets and be rid of them! I have no mercy or sympathy for those that prey on the weak, old or good.
  11. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

  12. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    Remember back a few years ago when they tried the Tagent in the gun powder? Was supposed to be a "unique" code that was applied to the person at the time of purchase! That went over as well as a..........Never mind, point is, I can see tons of ways to mess this up and am all for doing just that! I bet micro stamping, engraving can be just polished and or tumbled out!
  13. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus Site Supporter

    @ghrit - you beat me to it. The bullet is the projectile, not the casing. Although the google dictionary does list "cartridge" as a synonym so I guess, technically, before the grammar/word/spelling/definition Nazi shows up I will throw that out there. Mirriam Webster, however, does NOT have it as a synonym.

    Most commonly, only a rube refers to a "round" of ammunition as a bullet. Same people who call a magazine a "clip".

    Or, you know, go across the border and purchase the ammunition there and bring it back? Or, how about the MILLIONS if not BILLIONS of rounds of ammunition already in existence that aren't serialized that people own that they moved to Illinois with? Just sayin'.
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  14. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    from the ACS website: "This laser engraving is etched on both the projectile and the inside of the cartridge casing. Each code will be common to a single box of cartridges and unique from all other ammunition sold."

    Reading through the website, this company is pretty much assuming that all criminals are too dumb or lazy to do anything but buy ammo legally. The CEO is either a con-man or just kinda liberal and dumb...and modern Idiocrat.

    Just more good reason to save your brass and cast your own at least when we shoot the idiots shooting at us with marked ammo, our rounds can't be traced...or will be traced to some little old lady from the next town over. :D
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  15. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    if the idiotic law was passed .. well there would be no more ammo sales in Illinois.

    Seriously, mfg's going to sell to 1 kind of ammo to one state and regular run to the other 49?

    Way too many loop holes in the logic. Ammo could be self loaded or purchased long ago, I'd love to see them try to get S/Ns on old combloc spam can ammo. LOL
  16. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    How are they going to Police this, with all the HandLoaders in the State? Unless they make Hand Loading Illegal, any Person buying Manufactured Projectiles, and using them to Reload, will not be in compliance with this new Supposed Statute.... and I think very FEW of the Ammunition Manufactures are going to retool their whole Production Lines for ONE State... I suspect they will ALL Say "Illinois, Stick It where the Sun Don't Shine" and refuse to sell their product to ANYONE, or ANY Agency, in that State.... and watch the State and Local LEOs, cause such a Ruckus, as to make this a PipeDream....

    Someone hasn't thought this ALL the Way through.........
  17. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    Correction: there would be no more LEGAL ammo sales in Illinois. Hand loads on the black market would, excuse the pun, boom. ;)
  18. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    That, too, but I'm thinking interstate smuggling might just (also) boom. Methinks there ain't enough cruisers to cover all the border crossing roads. Hm. "Speak easy ammo bars" maybe? Time honored Chicago enterprise.
  19. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    Then they'll scream to close the "reloading loophole" as well as the "lead casting loophole". And let's not forget the "musket loophole", gonna have to mark all lead balls. Then there is the tougher nut to crack: the "shot loophole"...I'll bet trying to mark #8 shot will be fun!
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  20. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Nah, then the gangs will up the ante to diesel and prills in a cement mixer and with one bang take out the whole clubhouse.
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