Proposed BOB List

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by AxesAreBetter, Jun 3, 2017.


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  1. AxesAreBetter

    AxesAreBetter Monkey+++

    Figured I'd get some feedback on this BOB idea.
    sven saw
    bowie
    “kephart knife”
    Bivvy Sack
    Wool Blanket
    Blanket Pin
    sharpener
    1000 gallon filter
    canteen
    canteen cup
    tinder kit (lense, tinderbox, ferro rod, zippo, fuel, bag to hold)
    alcohol stove
    sewing kit
    2 snap together ponchos
    ultralite tarp
    “survival” combo gun
    ammo for same
    med kit
    3 conibears
    4 yoyos
    hand fishing kit
    pack hat
    change of clothes
    packets of instant breakfast
    3 cans spam
    4 freezedried meals
    6 odd powerbars
    whiskey
    coffee grounds
    2 qt cooking pot
    Map and compass
    150 foot bankline
    100ft paracord
    net/hammock
    2 bandanas
    2 manuals
    gas mask
    pistol w/6 mags
     
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  2. M118LR

    M118LR Caution: Does not play well with others.

    Would it be to much to ask AX, for a combined weight. Individual items might even be better if we shall all have a combined pool in the think tank. JMHO.
     
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  3. AxesAreBetter

    AxesAreBetter Monkey+++

    All up, I think it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 45...it's not my kit, though I am having influence on it. So, I don;t have it all in front of me to weigh...
     
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  4. M118LR

    M118LR Caution: Does not play well with others.

    Being the Oldest, Weakest, most experienced member of MY CLAN, 45 lbs is a two man load. We have either got to find some lower weight corresponding items, or start trimming off the pork. JMHO for what it's worth.
     
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  5. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    Much depends on where they are, how long they anticipate being refugees, season, physical conditioning...and what are the manuals?
    I'd want more than one canteen...
     
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  6. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Eating irons, Cook spoon, a plate, roll of TP, I'd add an aeropress because I don't like to chew my coffee. [winkthumb]
     
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  7. AxesAreBetter

    AxesAreBetter Monkey+++

    Suggestions on trimming?

    SE USA. Unknown refugee time, expecting maybe months, slightly better than average conditioning, 3 season base kit.
     
  8. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    Drop the yoyos, this isn't a game and they aren't Bruce Lee.
    Replace the alcohol stove with one that uses sticks, leaves, etc. forget the whiskey.
    SE USA...better have a bunch of DEET, too.
    Soap

    .
     
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  9. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    A wet bandana could replace the gas mask... But, 45# isn't that much in a back pack.. Are you counting the pistol and survival rifle in the weight?
     
  10. AxesAreBetter

    AxesAreBetter Monkey+++

    I thought I was...might need to add 10 to that. Ballparking. Wish I could better answer.

    Yoyos are a spring loaded fishing reel/trap.
     
  11. M118LR

    M118LR Caution: Does not play well with others.

    I'm a PF Flyer kid, I want to run faster and jump higher than anyone else on the block! 45 lbs ain't going to make me a "Happy Camper" at the end of the month.
     
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  12. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    I would rid my self of all the cooking iron and canteen cup. I use Two of the little Stainless M.S.R. cook pots 1 is the 2 cup version, and the bigger one is the 2 quart. Nice and light, they nest together, can also stuff things between the two, and they bever wear out or go bad, and being stainless, they don't promote mold or other contaminant. I also use a Jet boil 2 quart cook pot/beverage maker as it's very light, make coffee with the french press mod kit, can nest my M.S.R. Wisperlight international, and combined it is a complete system that weighs in a few oz less then most combo cook sets. I use the Light My Fire brand folding plates and bowls, as they weigh nothing and fold flat for easy storage, and they hold up extreamly well an are very easy to clean. I would also loose the extra clothes, and the yoyo's and find a way to distribute the ammo so that if something happens to the BoB, you still have some with/on you. and I would remove the firearms from the BoB once you actually need to use it, and carry them separately on your person! Following this should about halve the all up weight of your set up! Mine in a internal frame back pack with a lot more food comes in at 54 pounds with no guns or ammo, but mine can keep me set for several weeks, limited only by the amount of food I have!
     
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  13. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    By the end of the month all the food will be gone, pack will be lighter. And, I would suspect that if you haven't reached your BOL by day 2, then you are in trouble.
     
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  14. AxesAreBetter

    AxesAreBetter Monkey+++

    Why ditch the spare clothes?
     
  15. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    I can see dry socks, but you will get to your BOL tired and smelly anyway..
     
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  16. M118LR

    M118LR Caution: Does not play well with others.

    30 days "Outside the wire" isn't even a LRP or LRRP. ( Please google the acronyms if they are unfamiliar.)
     
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  17. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    OK, but I thought what we were trying to determine was a pack for Bugging Out. Did that criteria change somewhere?

    Can't see even considering being out for 30 days to get to a safe place.
     
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  18. M118LR

    M118LR Caution: Does not play well with others.

    Unknown time?

    Perhaps your concepts (underlined) and my past experiences are not in alignment?
     
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  19. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    I would assume (and that may be a mistake) that Axes has a predetermined BOL. If not, he is bugging out to nowhere or to somewhere he has not scouted. If this is the case, that he is headed into the unknown then a discussion of what is in his pack is a waste of time.

    Depends on the reasons for bugging out? Maybe he will clarify so we can get a better feel for what he needs.
     
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  20. M118LR

    M118LR Caution: Does not play well with others.

    Main reason for bugging out: it ain't likely that you are going to survive where your at to start the trip. JMHO.
     
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