Putin Comments On The Decline In The Western World

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  1. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    Here is something I did not consider plausible. Still, it is proof that some in the world are paying attention to the fecal smeared mess that we, as a country, are faced with. And I would wager that they are wondering just how we Patriots will square this away.

    Vladimir Putin addresses the decline of western civilization in anti-woke speech


    Vladimir Putin addresses the decline of western civilization in anti-woke speech

    Putin highlighted similarities between woke progressives to the Soviet revolutionaries who took over Russia in a speech translated by the Kremlin.

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    Russian President Vladimir Putin says that woke ideology is destroying western civilization. In a speech on Thursday, the Russian leader condemned far-left progressivism and compared it to Russia’s darkest days during the 1917 communist revolution, in which the Soviets seized the means of production and overthrew the government.

    Speaking at a plenary session of the 18th annual meeting of the Valdai International Discussion Club in Sochi, Putin and other political luminaries discussed the “Global Shakeup in the 21st Century.”

    Putin’s speech was translated by an interpreter and uploaded to the Kremlin’s official government website.

    “We look in amazement at the processes underway in the countries which have been traditionally looked at as the standard-bearers of progress,” Putin said. “Of course, the social and cultural shocks that are taking place in the United States and Western Europe are none of our business; we are keeping out of this.”

    “Some people in the West believe that an aggressive elimination of entire pages from their own history, ‘reverse discrimination’ against the majority in the interests of a minority, and the demand to give up the traditional notions of mother, father, family and even gender, they believe that all of these are the mileposts on the path towards social renewal,” said Putin, elaborating on the cultural decline of the west in the name of social justice.

    “Listen, I would like to point out once again that they have a right to do this, we are keeping out of this,” Putin continued. “But we would like to ask them to keep out of our business as well. We have a different viewpoint, at least the overwhelming majority of Russian society — it would be more correct to put it this way – has a different opinion on this matter. We believe that we must rely on our own spiritual values, our historical tradition and the culture of our multiethnic nation.”

    “The advocates of so-called ‘social progress’ believe they are introducing humanity to some kind of a new and better consciousness,” he added. “Godspeed, hoist the flags as we say, go right ahead.”

    “The only thing that I want to say now is that their prescriptions are not new at all,” Putin continued, and highlighted the similarities between woke progressives to the Soviet revolutionaries who took over Russia.

    “It may come as a surprise to some people, but Russia has been there already,” he said. “After the 1917 revolution, the Bolsheviks, relying on the dogmas of Marx and Engels, also said that they would change existing ways and customs and not just political and economic ones, but the very notion of human morality and the foundations of a healthy society. The destruction of age-old values, religion and relations between people, up to and including the total rejection of family (we had that, too), encouragement to inform on loved ones – all this was proclaimed progress and, by the way, was widely supported around the world back then and was quite fashionable, same as today. By the way, the Bolsheviks were absolutely intolerant of opinions other than theirs.”

    “This, I believe, should call to mind some of what we are witnessing now,” he said. “Looking at what is happening in a number of Western countries, we are amazed to see the domestic practices, which we, fortunately, have left, I hope, in the distant past.”

    “The fight for equality and against discrimination has turned into aggressive dogmatism bordering on absurdity, when the works of the great authors of the past — such as Shakespeare — are no longer taught at schools or universities, because their ideas are believed to be backward,” he said. “The classics are declared backward and ignorant of the importance of gender or race. In Hollywood, memos are distributed about proper storytelling and how many characters of what colour or gender should be in a movie. This is even worse than the agitprop department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.”

    “Countering acts of racism is a necessary and noble cause, but the new ‘cancel culture’ has turned it into ‘reverse discrimination’ that is, reverse racism,” noted Putin, who apt went on to describe the woke obsession with race and gender.

    “The obsessive emphasis on race is further dividing people, when the real fighters for civil rights dreamed precisely about erasing differences and refusing to divide people by skin colour,” said Putin in reference to Martin Luther King Jr.’s speech.

    “I specifically asked my colleagues to find the following quote from Martin Luther King: ‘I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by their character.’ This is the true value,” he said.

    “However, things are turning out differently there,” he added. “By the way, the absolute majority of Russian people do not think that the colour of a person's skin or their gender is an important matter. Each of us is a human being. This is what matters.”

    “In a number of Western countries, the debate over men’s and women’s rights has turned into a perfect phantasmagoria. Look, beware of going where the Bolsheviks once planned to go — not only communalising chickens, but also communalising women. One more step and you will be there,” Putin warned.

    “Zealots of these new approaches even go so far as to want to abolish these concepts altogether,” he said. “Anyone who dares mention that men and women actually exist, which is a biological fact, risk being ostracised.”

    Putin then remarked upon the transgender activist movement and widespread efforts to erase femininity and womanhood.

    “‘Parent number one’ and ‘parent number two,’ ‘birthing parent’ instead of ‘mother,’ and ‘human milk’ replacing ‘breastmilk’ because it might upset the people who are unsure about their own gender. I repeat, this is nothing new; in the 1920s, the so-called Soviet Kulturtraegers also invented some newspeak believing they were creating a new consciousness and changing values that way. And, as I have already said, they made such a mess it still makes one shudder at times,” he said.

    “Not to mention some truly monstrous things when children are taught from an early age that a boy can easily become a girl and vice versa,” said Putin, remarking on childhood gender transitions and the embrace of non-binary identities to the exclusion of parents. “That is, the teachers actually impose on them a choice we all supposedly have. They do so while shutting the parents out of the process and forcing the child to make decisions that can upend their entire life. They do not even bother to consult with child psychologists — is a child at this age even capable of making a decision of this kind? Calling a spade a spade, this verges on a crime against humanity, and it is being done in the name and under the banner of progress.”

    “Well, if someone likes this, let them do it. I have already mentioned that, in shaping our approaches, we will be guided by a healthy conservatism,” said Putin. “That was a few years ago, when passions on the international arena were not yet running as high as they are now, although, of course, we can say that clouds were gathering even then. Now, when the world is going through a structural disruption, the importance of reasonable conservatism as the foundation for a political course has skyrocketed — precisely because of the multiplying risks and dangers, and the fragility of the reality around us.”

    “This conservative approach is not about an ignorant traditionalism, a fear of change or a restraining game, much less about withdrawing into our own shell,” he noted. “It is primarily about reliance on a time-tested tradition, the preservation and growth of the population, a realistic assessment of oneself and others, a precise alignment of priorities, a correlation of necessity and possibility, a prudent formulation of goals, and a fundamental rejection of extremism as a method. And frankly, in the impending period of global reconstruction, which may take quite long, with its final design being uncertain, moderate conservatism is the most reasonable line of conduct, as far as I see it. It will inevitably change at some point, but so far, do no harm — the guiding principle in medicine — seems to be the most rational one. Noli nocere, as they say.”
     
  2. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    I find it disturbing how the left relentlessly (still continue) accused Trump of colluding with the Russians (no proof what so ever). The illegal regime of leftist and commies have cut our oil production making us dependent on foreign sources and at the same time granting Putin the go a head for their pipeline. On top of that asking Putin to supply us oil and enrich Putin. Now if this isn't colluding with the Russians I don't know what is and the left wing media is silent.
     
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  3. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    They purposefully demonize Putin and the whole of Russia to give the American People a bogeyman to blame, and turn a blind eye to China.
    The United States has historically funded and proliferated Russia, but only when it suited their own interests.
    The Bolshevik Revolution was funded and created by Zionists, who had infiltrated Russia and used Communism to tear it apart.

    And history repeats itself. Beware of the Zionists, they are deeply embedded in American society, at every level.
     
  4. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    Hmm , I might have to visit Russia for a while , till someone can shake some sense into these spitwads around here.
     
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  5. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    in R u s s i _ [USMC] git arrested fer spyin and thrown in jail .. .. dis is a true story .. ..

    plus a buncha folks keep puttin Polonium 210 in deir tea .. .. another true story .. .. plus no pun intended .. ..

    :mad: :mad:

    jus sayn
     
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  6. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Sounds "propaganda" like Russia is looking for allies, not!
     
  7. nkawtg

    nkawtg Monkey+++

    Putin sees himself as the leader of the "Third Rome" through the teachings of Alexander Dugin.
    Of course he would see west in a moralistic decline. And he's probably right.
     
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  8. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    In the grip of the leftist minority, this country appears spineless but it would be unwise to test our resolve. That has been attempted in the past and did not work out too well for the aggressor.
     
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  9. Gray Wolf

    Gray Wolf Monkey+++

    It's pretty sad when I find the leader of Russia more admirable than the leaders of my nation!
     
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  10. nkawtg

    nkawtg Monkey+++

    In many ways, yes I would agree.
    But in the end he's nothing more than a thug.
     
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  11. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    Nuke alert key chain and maybe a nuke alert ring to wear is in order.
     
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  12. nkawtg

    nkawtg Monkey+++

    Did that, I'm done.
     
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  13. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Well it was all planned.
    Pipelines stopped, oil and gas leases frozen, unreliable over priced over hyped renewable energy being forced on us, nuclear development stalled, wall building haulted and we are being flooded with illegals. All by design.
     
  14. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Very true. If people think the privately owned IRS in America is a corrupt racket, they ought to try Russia's version. Putin really isn't one of the good guys, he's taken extreme measures to get to where he is, and he's not about to walk away. That being said, he's also not wrong about what he brought up. In fact, I have a tough time finding anything he's blatantly lied about.
     
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  15. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Like him or not, Putin is one of the greatest individuals in modern history. Personally, I believe he is the greatest Russian that ever lived. He performed the impossible by pulling Russia back from the edge of the abyss. He saved Russia. Yes, he is not much more than a dictator - yet - the majority of the people love him and are content with their country and lives. So, how can we ridicule them? And, if he is a thug - well - he is one of high intellect and has done the impossible. And, I would bet good money he is more respected throughout the world than this damn idiot of a president we have. Hell, we had a president that was a match for him and what did our country do? Don't get me wrong, I am not a Putin lover but I do highly respect him and acknowledge leadership when I see it. He's a Nationalist, I get it, puts Russia first, and, like ALL professional politicians he has made himself a fortune from his position. So, yeah, I respect him and his insight so if he is saying this then we better be damn worried what is going to happen to our children in the future.

    One of the most ridiculous ideas Americans have is that its form of democracy is perfect for every country of the world. Some countries simply aren't ready for it, in truth, few are. And, lately I wonder if this damn country is...

    Why does America always want to bad mouth, even slander Russia? Hell, what do we have to brag about these days? Are there rioters allowed to go on burning sprees in Russia? Are thieves allowed to walk out of stores with armloads of stolen property without consequence? Do small minority activists dictate how the majority can speak and live in society even to disregarding Constitutional law and one's faith? And, let's compare their public schools to ours - which teaches propaganda in schools? Maybe we should look in our own backyard because to me it's looking more and more like a dung hill and certainly smells like one. "Oh! But, it is so corrupt there!" And, of course, it's not here? No, definitely not, from the top down there's no corruption here?

    One last thing, what is the ONLY country in the world that allied with us would make containment of China a small possibility or in the event of war might mean the difference saving us and the world from enslavement?

    So, here's a question for the group...if you had the chance to meet and lunch with either President Biden or President Putin which would you chose?
     
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  16. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    I'd choose Putin for a serious conversation --if I wanted a good comedy act bidumb
     
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  17. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    Who would I rather have lunch with ???
    If I was eating ,,,, Putin .
    If I was serving,,,, Biden ,,,
     
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  18. Tempstar

    Tempstar Monkey+++

    Putin has my respect. He stands for his country with no apparent agendas other than to make Russia great. He is the kind of leader we need, and I think we had in Trump. I also don't know if the term thug actually fits. I seem him more as "driven". When one examines the ideologies of the Russian people and compares them to our Western culture, what we assume is thug behavior is seen in Russia as determined resolve.

    The speech posted by Dont shows us all how the rest of the world knows we are getting ready to fall on our ass if we don't make some changes to the social crap that is taking over.

    Lunch? With Putin and I'll pick up the check.
     
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  19. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    Yes I don’t care for Putin personally but I respect him as a leader of his country. He seems to care about Russia and makes no claim to be anything other than Russia first. I can’t say the same for some of our “leaders”.
     
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  20. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    When Putin went into Sevastopol (Crimea) I was infuriated, not so much at him/Russia, cause I understood the significance of the Naval base there (hell, they built it!) but at the USA, how weak and decadent we had become, how we simply looked the other way while lesser countries were attacked, how we now only paid lip service to being the 'defenders of freedom' and now used it as a slogan when it suited us. It was a rude awakening that Putin/Russia is not the problem nor is China - it's us. It's not Putin that has pushed America over the cliff into a economic nose dive, cut off pipelines, open borders, advocate crime, etc, etc, etc...

    Yeah, I don't have to like Putin but I respect him and that's more than I can say for our own President...or our Vice President or Speaker of the House or...one has to go way down the chain before I find someone I respect anymore.
     
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