Q The Plan To Save The World

Discussion in 'Tin Foil Hat Lounge' started by GuitarPlayer, Aug 2, 2018.


  1. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    Problem with this whole situation, right, left, Q, anti Q, Trump, Hillary, BLM, and all the rest, I no longer have any concept of where in the mass of propaganda being fed to me is the nugget of truth.There is a war going on and it seems to be drawing towards some crisis point. I just don't know if it the Dunkirk and beginning or Nagasaki and ending. Millions of Jews, Gypsies, Communist, anti Communist, innocent bystander, etc, died during WW2. I hate to think that I and my family may be the collateral damage in this round of unpleasantness, but is looking ever more likely. The whole world is in a constant state of flux and many countries no longer continue as functioning societies, most of Africa is on a course that can not continue in the long run as is the USA. Our governmental system has lost the ability to pay for the products it has promised to pay, health care, education, pensions, infrastructure, defense, rule of law, etc. One group wishes to contain those expenses and limit or cancel the "rights" that the other groups insist they have. Another group, dominate in New England at the moment, insist that we can just continue as we are and find a higher level of government to take it from someone else, borrow the money, or print it. We are close to the point that we can no longer kick the can down the road and as a nation so close to being evenly divided that neither side on a national level can effectively dominate. They can and do on a regional level. All of our institutions have dogs in the fight as do all of our politicians and parties and none of them are to be trusted. The jesters mask is being worn by both left and right, rich and poor, Godly and anti Godly, no one knows who to trust. Some of the poetry from Nigeria is very timely for the present time, they seem to have led the present world by about 50 years in this decent into darkness. What do we do as individuals when "things fall apart"? In retrospect, the replacement of the Irish peasant, the famine at least compounded by the potato blight, the diaspora that followed, may have been a bad political or social decision, but to the individual Irish family it was a time of pure hell. As was living in Berlin or other German cities at the ending stages of WW2 and for the year or so afterwards.

    We are arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin while our system is lurching towards some ill perceived end and I am afraid that I will be caught under the wheels. Listening to the "true believers" on either side is not the answer, but the final solution may be the dominance of one or the other. I just hope that in this end game, I will not be the local fill in for the Jew in a situation similar to Hitler's final solution.
     
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  2. apache235

    apache235 Monkey+++

    TPTB predict that an EMP will generate 90% death rate in this country, I wonder what the percentage will be for a total societal collapse?
     
  3. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    Depends on the definition of collapse. Some groups in native or off grid lifestyles like Navajos, nomadic Arabs, Mongols, Australia's ranchers and a lot of remote Africa will probably as ok as ever. Iceland, Siberia, Alaska, North Korea, and some more modern cultures may have enough isolation and/or natural resources to probably bounce back quickly to pre-disaster levels. Life as the rest of the world knows it is gonna be a terrible and new reality.

    After an EMP; internet sensations, barristas, and music DJs might need to re-classed to hookers, bartenders, and whorehouse piano players. Shouldn't be too hard.....
     
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  4. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Absolutely. I'm fairly confident you won't find many here on this forum who will disagree. It is also quite an obvious setup and diversion.

    I was having a discussion last night with someone about the state of humanity and everything that is going on, and I was attempting to place it all into perspective from a "third party" point of view. Whether or not one believes in aliens, we should still be able to use the concept as a means to creatively and philosophically analyze humanity as a whole. I mean, in all the universe and beyond we would be entirely and wholly stupid to assume that this planet is the only biosphere capable of sustaining life. Additionally, if only a fraction of what we've learned thus far from quantum physics can be correlated and assembled into digestible fragments, it's pretty fair to conclude we don't really know much at all when it comes to "reality", at least when it comes down to the microcosm and macrocosm. Essentially, quantum physics tosses a steel wrench into the gears of what we "know" to be modern science and physics. Just imagine what we may "know" in the future?

    And, the discussion we were having involved the idea of an alien presence determining the overall status and function of humanity. Yes, there have been many movies about this subject, and even prior President's are on record stating something to the effect of "how would aliens see us", but what I am getting at is very simple. No matter your allegiance to country or beliefs, this thinking exercise (hypothetical or otherwise) should broaden your horizons a bit. Currently, we are humanity, but we are not human beings first. We are "Americans", we are "British", we are "black", we are "gay", we are "feminine", we are "Italian", we are "Christians", or we are "Muslims", etc. And then we are also human beings, a part of the world community, a piece of the puzzle, so to speak. It has not only been theorized, but heavily adopted as logical as well as standard philosophy, to accept the notion that progress cannot be made as a species if it is divided, if it is segregated, and perpetually poised to wage war with itself. The human race has been at war with itself since recorded history can provide account; there may be no end in sight for war to continue until we ultimately end ourselves. In the past, there was no threat to the survivability of the human race as nations and empires waged war. The advent of nuclear technology brought about a very real possibility for this to happen on a global scale. The term, "extinction level event" would only have been applied to natural phenomenon, but now it can also refer to mankind's capability to destroy all living matter and end the dream that is humanity.

    What would an alien presence see if they were to witness these happenings? And, more along the lines of the traditional version of "reality" many would find more palatable, what are the top echelon of leaders in this world doing to either promote peace and prosperity or total destruction? This leaves us with an interesting proposition, and it's one that should not be taken lightly. On one hand, we see the move toward globalism, the outward campaign often publicized through politics and economic happenings. The corporations of the world form cartels and they edge out competition, establishing the framework for monopolies and exponential wealth accumulation. This wealth is in turn utilized to further the goals of the corporations as well as embolden their global agenda, fueling more war and discontent. From these wars and struggles, technological advancements are made, and most of the progress is geared toward finding bigger and better ways to kill more efficiently and more devastatingly. One may argue this is because there is yet much work to be done, and there's still the problem of overpopulation to consider. Certainly, at current figures, the human race can still thrive with a modest population growth. But, we're not considering the advancements in healthcare and medicine, technology, and artificial intelligence. We must also consider the aspect of how humanity is still mostly divided into nations with political and religious differences. All of this is also coupled with philosophies of eugenics and population control, the technocratic agenda, genetically modified foods, and utilizing nature as a weapon (in more ways than one). On the other hand, we also have the need, the bare essential need to survive as a species. It is inextricably linked to everything, to deny this is to deny our very existence --if we have a unified purpose or not, we still have a need to survive. If you can see where this is all going, no matter which path we take, if we do not alter certain core principles of our societal heritage, if we do not begin to live more practical and sensible, the future for humanity is going to look pretty stark. Now, some of these instances are created by wealthy corporate conglomerates, and we're only beginning to see and understand the effects of genetically modified foods, chemicals in drinking water, routine medications from pharmaceutical corporations, and the plethora of antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria. Humanity is no longer just a threat to itself by means of nuclear fallout, we've managed to turn mother nature against ourselves, too. Whether it has all been scientifically created or not, we are not being left with much choice to either submit to these changes, or face becoming another extinct species on a very long list this planet maintains.

    I guess what I am getting at is, "indoles in consilio" there's a genius behind the design of this world.

    I look at much of humanity as I would a child. If you want to get a child to do as you wish, you may do one of two things: use forcefulness, or creative conditioning. The former is straight forward enough, you leave no room for options and stand firm with the air of authority. The latter is based on the fundamentals of psychology and although it can take more work, it may also yield the best results.

    I wonder how long it will take the human race, in sufficient quantity to realize how petty their pride truly is? There is pride in being a member of any particular nation, there is pride in identifying as a social construct to suit whatever narrative and beliefs that are carried and held to be critical to living, a people can be proud to be religious and even proclaim to hold certain privileges in a perceived afterlife, never mind this one. In the political spectrum, people are prideful when it comes to politics, holding on with dear life to their party's platform, living and preaching, even shouting about their beliefs. A people can be proud to be of a certain sexual flavor, and demand to be recognized and appreciated despite what tradition may say. But, I wonder...how many people are willing to place their pride on the bottom shelf long enough to see it's all for nothing if the entirety of the human race becomes extinct?

    "Oh, that will never happen!", they exclaim.
    "Our souls are eternal, we will live forever in the spirit of the...", they rejoice.

    You know, long ago, a very long time ago, a man once thought he could make any number of people go to war and fight to the bitter end for his cause. Even at the point where the soldiers were starving, cold, bewildered, beaten and sore, he could inspire them to carry onward. It was a magnificent thing to behold, and it was a most terrible thing to behold. You tell him, "you're going to enjoy your next life. This is the way you get to spend eternity in a beautiful place." And so it goes, the seemingly eternal parade of the mind. It's a fascinating part of history, and at the same time it's one of our greatest mistakes ever made.

    What we are witnessing is the attempt to undo the mistakes of the past and to provide the possibility to sustain the human race as a single species.

    It wasn't easy to point out the many problems with forcing change; there's a very dark and depressing side to utilizing the necessary tools. The corrupt politicians, the greedy corporate tycoons, the eugenics crowd, the technocrats and socialists and communists and fascists and neoconservatives and liberals of the world are all part of the "necessary evil" portion of the equation. The Jesuits have a creed, it's "the end justifies the means", insinuating that it matters not "how" we arrive at our destination, the important matter is that we do, in fact...arrive.

    Will we sacrifice our humanity in an attempt to save it?

    What is the figure? This is gallows humor at the moment as I type this, but what's a "sufficient" number, really? Would it be 3 billion served with the pu-pu platter of plague, or 5 1/2 billion in fire and torment? There's shelter enough deep beneath the surface if you've got an invitation. The only thing is, who will be looking in the mirror ever again once the air is clear?
     
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  5. GuitarPlayer

    GuitarPlayer Monkey

    This is 'fair and balanced' reporting...


    Ascending: Legacy Media Spotlight Propels QAnon Movement
    [​IMG] by Assistant Editor August 12, 2018

    Over the last week the Washington Post, New York Times, CNN. NBC News, CBS News, Bloomberg, The New Yorker, Vox, and the Daily Beast have all written a plethora of over 20 articles on the Qanon Movement all using highly similar talking points to marginalize the movement.

    Instead it’s just pushing it into the cultural mainstream– the Streisand Effect. The liberal mainstream media will never learn.

    The Washington Post published three articles in the last four days. Crazytown– clearly the mainstream media and their deepstate handlers see the movement as a threat coming up to the midterms.

    Such a coordinated major media barrage of negative coverage hasn’t been seen since Wikileaks published The Podesta Emails.

    Into the Cultural Mainstream
    Over the course of the last week, the cultural and political phenomenon known as the QAnon Movement has been categorically attacked by nearly every major legacy media organization in the US in what appears to be a coordinated effort to mischaracterize and discredit it in rapid succession.

    Notable left-leaning publications from the Washington Post, NY Times, USA Today, Bloomberg, to magazines likeThe New Yorker, Newsweek, and Fortune, to national and cable news outlets such as NBC News, CNN, CBS News, and MSNBC, and even national broadcasting services such as PBS and the BBC have all shined in concert a glaringly critical spotlight on the movement.

    Other than the consistently negative media coverage of President Trump, such a barrage of coordinated mainstream media attacks has not been seen since Wikileaks published The Podesta Emails in the final weeks before the 2016 US Presidential Election.

    The coverage’s common denominator is the use of shared descriptives including “fringe, far-right, false, deranged, insane, bizarre, cult, and conspiracy theory” in an attempt to marginalize the movement. The media blitz reached a zenith after President Trump’s rally in Tampa, Florida on July 31, where a contingency of attendees sported “Q” t-shirts and raised homemade placards directing viewers to #QAnon and to www.Qanon.pub, the website that re-publishes QAnon’s 8chan content.

    By all objective standards, the popularity of the movement is on the rise. Yet, QAnon remains by design inherently mysterious. No one knows QAnon’s actual identity, as the information is exclusively published on the anonymous forum 8chan. In an age increasingly characterized by big tech profiteering from the sale of users’ private metadata and algorithm-based censorship, 8chan remains one of the last online vestiges that values freedom of thought, speech, and information.

    Some anon researchers believe QAnon is associated with the Q Group, the NSA’s secretive security and counterintelligence directorate, of which little is publicly known. If this is the case, QAnon would certainly hold a security clearance equivalent to that of a Department of Defense Top Secret Security Clearance.

    QAnon’s content is equally enigmatic, embedded with multiple levels of meaning, mirrored codes, info-graphs, markers, connections, video clips, original photographic images, and coordinated timestamps, all converging into a highly sophisticated information treasure map of sorts. QAnon has stated that the communications must be expressed in an indirect manner as the specific details are sensitive classified material, which by law cannot be openly stated.

    These communications have inspired a 24/7 global research gathering on 8chan’s QResearch Board, composed of tens of thousands of anonymous researchers, who scour all open source information to substantiate, interpret, and expand upon QAnon’s posts. The posts along with the best of the anon research are sent across the social media ecosystem at an astounding rate via a loyal vox populi distribution system. In a recent article, Time claimed that QAnon was among the 10 most influential voices on the internet today.

    QAnon’s central theme is that President Trump, along with patriotic elements of the US Military and Intelligence Community, are currently in a real-time battle to disrupt and dismantle highly corrupt, criminal, and, often times, seditious governmental and private sector corporate systems in the US and internationally. President Trump and his alliance are preparing to expose and prosecute these layers of identified bad actors, who are the authors and operators of this systemic corruption. Many in the higher echelons of the legacy media infrastructure are also implicated.

    QAnon claims that these bad actors have literally sold out US National Interests to prominent transnationalist individuals, certain US and foreign multinational corporations, and various foreign government interests, creating what has become a grave threat to national security, sovereignty, and the economic future of the America People. QAnon refers to this dynamic as “America for Sale”.

    This central theme is encapsulated in QAnon’s post #1746 on July 28,

    “NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS THE MEDIA WILL NOT PUSH THE TRUTH

    MSM IMPLICATED IN HIGHEST LEVEL TREASON EVENT IN US MODERN DAY HISTORY

    REFER BACK TO PREVIOUS DROPS

    WITNESSING HIGHEST LEVEL TREASON EVENT IN US/WW MODERN DAY HISTORY…”

    On June 12, QAnon predicts a second coordinated wave of mainstream media attacks, in post #1849,

    “MSM Attacks.

    [Round 2]…

    Expect bigger push. “



    In post #1822 from August 6, QAnon responds directly to the recent wave of media coverage,

    [FAKE NEWS]

    Fake News collaborating and pushing knowingly false information?

    Fake News ‘KNOWINGLY FALSE’ narrative pushes.
    1. POTUS colluded w/ Russia to win 2016 Presidential Election
    2. POTUS is puppet to PUTIN
    3. POTUS to harm irreparably relationships w/ our allies
    4. POTUS will collapse US economy
    5. POTUS will collapse US stock market
    6. POTUS will cause war w/ NK
    7. POTUS will cause war w/ Iran
    8. POTUS will destroy the world.
    9. On and on…….(knowingly false)
    FEAR & SCARE PUSH.
    They would rather see NK peace negotiations fail (WAR!) than see POTUS resolve.
    Scandalous media bias?
    Conspiracy?
    Collaboration?
    What are they hiding?
    FAKE NEWS MEDIA IS NOT FREE AND INDEPENDENT.
    FAKE NEWS MEDIA = PROPAGANDA ARM OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
    Think WL list of journalists who colluded w/ HRC/DNC (2016 Pres Election)…
    You are witnessing a FULL PANIC ATTACK by the FAKE NEWS
    MEDIA & COVERT ALT MEDIA AFFILIATES (foreign gov’t).
    They cannot contain or defeat what they do not understand.
    Is any of this normal?
    Think sealed indictments count.
    Think resignations of CEOs.
    Think resignations of Senators.
    Think resignations of Congress.
    Think termination of sr FBI…
    Think termination of sr DOJ…
    WATERGATEX1000
    Attacks will only intensify.
    Logical thinking.
    Ask yourself a simple question – WHY????
    Q”

    From an objective perspective, given the unprecedented number of Congress and Senate seats suddenly vacated by members of both parties, combined with the abrupt resignations of hundreds of prominent corporate CEO’s, combined with the uncovering of what may prove to be historic corruption at the highest levels of the US Government, all occurring contemporaneously, is QAnon’s central theme truly farfetched?

    For savvy media consumers, who have chosen to question the motives and veracity of the major media giants, the logical question is — why? Why would a supposed conspiracy theory promulgated by an anonymous party on 8chan suddenly become such a high priority for such notable news agencies all at the same time? This line of logic inevitably leads to the next question — which one of these two diametrically opposed narratives to believe? In the words of QAnon, “The choice to know will ultimately be yours.”
     
  6. GuitarPlayer

    GuitarPlayer Monkey

    Q Anon - What's the Matter with Maher? Learning to Fly? - In Pursuit of Truth Presents - 8.12.18



    Notice the RED shoes...??

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  7. GuitarPlayer

    GuitarPlayer Monkey

  8. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

  9. GuitarPlayer

    GuitarPlayer Monkey

    Headline:
    The psychology of Qanon: Why do seemingly sane people believe bizarre conspiracy theories?

    One merely needs to ask the simple question "Who considers it a 'bizarre conspiracy theory'?

    Exactly who made that determination??


    Aaaaaand the answer is...???


     
  10. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    well.... IMHO with the way things tend to work and go with the majority of the MSM n online google facebook youtube etc...

    something is going on... and it don't seem right... perhaps it is time to start looking elsewhere for such things?

    one alternate seems to be GAB? I'm sure if we look around and share info we should be able to find something?

    Gab
     
  11. GuitarPlayer

    GuitarPlayer Monkey

    Once you start looking into Q posts you suddenly discover that 'Hey... there is factual truth to these posts...' and you begin to 'see' patterns that truth is revealed. It's really easy to sit back and say "Oh, it's just some wacko conspiracy" and never be any wiser, which is EXACTLY what they (MSM Deep State) want you to do. NOTHING! And many people do just that because the MSM never lies.

    The MSM is falling for it yet again. Just like AlexJones! I can't stand the guy, but the MSM has introduced even more people to AJ than AJ could have ever hoped for! Now they're doing it for Q!! They are LOSING.


    There are millions of people world-wide (not just "Trump supporters" or the 'alt.right' as the article suggests) all researching what Q posts. WORLD WIDE!

    Is it a 'conspiracy' if it's true?

    The first thing anyone must realize about Q is that 'Q' doesn't tell anyone what to think. EVER!

    Q insists you 'Think for yourself'. Q posts, anons research and post what they find. You read (or research) and make up your own mind. Pretty simple.

    Q is fond of saying "These people are stupid." and "We have it all" which I take to mean EVERYTHING. All the data. All the emails. The 'server'. The anons have mapped the connections between government and corporations. It's quite interesting... revealing actually. It's quite the 'conspiracy' and not a 'theory'. No wonder they tried to subvert a duly elected POTUS! If she would have been elected none of this would have seen the light of day. They would have buried it just as they did Benghazi... a youtube video indeed... are we so gullible?

    As for effectiveness of Q, here is a list of politicians that are not running for reelection, or resigned... why? Why so many?
    Never so many before. Could they have taken a bribe? Pedophilia? Treason? Sedition? Questions, questions, questions....

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    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
    Mahatma Gandhi
     
  12. GuitarPlayer

    GuitarPlayer Monkey

    Problem with GAB is it's hosted by MSFT... on their platform. MSFT just told GAB folks to remove some 'offensive' posts.... or else!


    MeWe might be a better alternative??

    Also, there is some noise about the social media platforms banning conservative views. That goes against Sherman Anti-trust rules and will probably turn these platforms into utility-like with regulations....?? n

    Stay tuned....
     
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  13. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    I note that third eye "seeing" can and does result from psychoactive drugs, alcohol, and other psychological problems and manipulation. It's funny, to me at least, how patterns can appear in sand if you stare at it long enough. Likewise, what do those clouds look like when snoozing in the sunshine?
    Absent something concrete, q-anon and those that believe have to be relegated to tinfoil hat wearing folks. Seems that repeating this stuff will NOT make believers of the sheep, any more than the sky is falling criers (in spite of Alinsky.) But that's just me, you have to make up your own mind in the face of unrelated and very tenuous connections that are sewn together.
     
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  14. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Just remember, I knew what we were facing back around the time Trump built the Taj Mahal empire for 1.5 billion dollars, and I still knew what was going on after he crapped it back out at 4 cents on the dollar. I don't "need" some internet sensation group telling me what secrets there are hidden in photos and tweets to "wake me up", I've been 'eyes wide open' longer than most of these kids went from being embryo's to fapping off to Pornhub.

    The ultimate goal is to show people there existing "reality" isn't what they are typically told. I am fine with this. But, if you're going to try to pitch it as some kind of revelation being shoveled by a one lettered cult, I'm sorry but I have better things to do.
     
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  15. GuitarPlayer

    GuitarPlayer Monkey

    I agree. The 'thought' is that this is a grassroots movement. I think they're going to start releasing stuff that will implicate the nefarious operators. Not sure what others think about it, but that's my take.

    I'm not pitching it as anything but an interesting 'out of box' experience. Time will tell what happens.

    Like I said before... it is interesting all the 'counter offensive' for Q being just a LARP. Usually, if you ignore something it goes away in due course. When you consider the recent election and the reaction from the left. The creation of AntiFa (an oxymoron if there ever was one!) and all the push back from the left. The obviously fake dossier. Knowing that the left is famous for accusing their enemies of things that they themselves have been doing! It all comes down to this... do you believe the MSM or your lying eyes?

    This used to be illegal:

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    and then anons assembled the pieces...

    [​IMG]

    It's going to be an 'interesting' presidency....
     
  16. GuitarPlayer

    GuitarPlayer Monkey

    Thread drift... I got no dog in this fight, but there's more to the story than 'Trump did us bad'.

    It's my understanding that Trump built the Taj Mahal (i.e., made his money). "Trump would oversee the construction build it, while Harrah's would operate the property, referred to as Harrah's Boardwalk, after opening.[3]" wiki

    Sounds like Trump was the construction company and Harrah's ran it. They tried to find a buyer (why?) and there were no takers (why?). You don't buy a losing proposition?? It also ran for 30 years!! - at what point do you take your marbles and go home?

    I read elsewhere that it was Harrah's that bankrupted the Taj Mahal (sorry no link).

    Trump, right or wrong, was to blame in the media - his 'name' was on the building!
     
  17. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    You started the thread with that asinine youtube. Your dog is losing. There's no shame in pulling out of a losing position before losing the entire stake. Please consider that as a viable option, and contribute in the other forum threads in some meaningful fashion.
     
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  18. GuitarPlayer

    GuitarPlayer Monkey

    If you will check my posts I have contributed to other threads. I am rather new here so it's going to be limited.

    I'm not trying to compete with anyone. Have I broken some forum rule? If so, let me know which one. As for this thread, I haven't forced anyone to believe one way or the other. Is there something I should know about posting here?? This is the 'Tin Foil Hat Lounge' is it not?
     
  19. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Not yet... But you are a “ One Trick Pony”".......
     
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  20. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    I don't know...at this rate, the QPlan thread will outstrip and outlive the 'This Thread Will Never Die' thread. :eek:

    Frankly, I find the thread very disappointing...It has yet to be explained how the Q Plan will save the world....thus far, it seems that the plan consists of bringing our attention to dudes wearing funky clothing and red shoes...:LOL:
     
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