Questionaires-Caution what you say

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by -06, Apr 15, 2012.


  1. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    This has been covered before but bears bringing to light again:

    What you permit, you promote
    When I had my gangrene gallbladder taken out and spent 10 days in the hospital for what should have been an
    overnight stay the insurance company kicked me out.
    I had home nurse visits for two weeks and was asked
    if I had guns in the house. I respond that if I did
    I would not tell them. So the below has some
    merit.
    FYI, I am passing this along...there are comments from
    two other people I have also been asked if we keep
    guns in the house. The nurse just kinda slipped it
    in along with all the other regular questions.
    I told her I refused to answer because it was
    against the law to ask.
    Everyone, whether you have guns or not, should give a neutral answer so they have no idea who does and who
    doesn't. My doctor asked me if I had guns in my
    house and also if any were loaded. I, of course,
    answered yes to both questions. Then he asked why I
    kept a loaded gun close to my bed. I answered
    that my son, who is a certified gun instructor and
    also works for Homeland Security, advised me that an
    unloaded, locked up gun is no protection against
    criminal attack.
    The Government now requires these questions be asked of
    people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.
    Just passing this along for your information: I had to
    visit a doctor other than my regular doctor when my
    doctor was on vacation.. One of the questions
    on the form I had to fill out was: Do you have any
    guns in your house?? My answer was None of your damn
    business!!
    So it is out there! It is either an insurance issue or
    government intervention. Either way, it is out
    there and the second the government gets into your
    medical records (as they want to under Obamacare) it
    will become a major issue and will ultimately result
    in lock and load!!
    Please pass this on to all the other retired guys and gun owners...Thanks, from a Vietnam Vet and retired
    Police Officer: I had a doctors appointment at the
    local VA clinic yesterday and found out something
    very interesting that I would like to pass along.
    While going through triage before seeing the doctor,
    I was asked at the end of the exam, three
    questions:1. Did I feel stressed? 2. Did I feel
    threatened? 3. Did I feel like doing harm to
    someone?
    The nurse then informed me, that if I had answered yes
    to any of the questions, I would have lost my
    concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my
    medical records and the VA would have reported it to
    Homeland Security.

    Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun
    people like retired law enforcement will probably be
    next. Then when they go after the civilians, what
    argument will they have? Be forewarned and be
    aware. The Obama administration has gone on
    record as considering veterans and gun owners
    potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner,
    veteran or not, YOU"VE BEEN WARNED !
    If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this
    on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and
    to whom.
     
  2. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    Long time ago, I had a doctor tell me that shooting was harmful to my hearing. I said well, then you should write me a prescription for a silencer. He never brought it up again.
     
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  3. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

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    Yet another alarmist hoax e-mail...for the Chicken Littles to get excited about!

    Both Truth and Fiction and Snopes have identified that the spam e-mail featured in post #1 is a hoax, but kudos to someone for their creative imagination in spreading the viral paranoia joy!


    Veterans can lose their weapons permit if they answer yes to three questions in a medical exam-Fiction!

    snopes.com: Medicare Requires Doctors to Ask Patients About Guns?
     
  4. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    Florida now has a law prohibiting Doctors and other medical people from asking these questions. It is none of their business and has no bearing on our health.
     
  5. tulianr

    tulianr Don Quixote de la Monkey

    Try adopting a child. When my wife and I adopted my son, four years ago, we went through days (literally, days) of questions, in addition to criminal background checks and full medical examinations.

    When the social worker asked about guns in the house, and I replied yes, you would have thought that I said that I raised rattlesnakes in the house. She had to immediately confirm that these evil implements of death and mayhem were properly secured in an appropriate gun safe.

    In addition to proving to the social worker that the highly distasteful firearms were secured, we had to submit all of our banking records and past three years of tax records; in addition to having three individuals write letters of reference for us.

    There is practically nothing the social workers didn't ask about and examine. One question I remember was "Think back to your childhood, and give me three words that come to your mind concerning your mother." The social worker even notated the style of our livingroom furniture, and noted that the colors of the fabric nicely complemented the color of the walls.

    I had a Top Secret Clearance with SCI (Sensitive Compartmented Information) Access, when I was in the military, and I don't think that my background was examined nearly as closely to obtain that clearance as it was to obtain permission to adopt.

    If you don't like the idea of turning your life inside out to a hoard of strangers, don't even consider adopting a child. If getting pregnant was as difficult as adopting, we'd have fewer unwanted pregnancies.
     
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  6. Wish I had thought to ask for one. My doctor was a hunter himself and carried in his office.

    He probably would have written one if he thought it would work, for himself and me.

    Ya know in europe they don't make a big deal over suppressors and in fact encourage require them to protect hearing / lower noise in some areas.

    Just another BS thing from some crybaby nanny stater or someone else who stood to make money by keeping the govt telling us what we can and cannot do.

    Of course I just skip busy body questions on the forms and if they ask me about it I just stare at em till they get uncomfortable.

    Not above telling em what I want them to think either. If they are my enemy then it is completely ok, and if not then they don't really care and are just doing something called following orders.

    I would think neuremberg had cured that line of thinking, but I doubt most even know the reference.
     
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  7. Sapper John

    Sapper John Analog Monkey in a Digital World

    About 8 years ago,I required home health care after surgery and one of the first questions asked was if I had any firearms on the property.It seems that their company policy would not allow any of their employees in a home with guns! Of course I answered truthfully,I don't own any of those evil things.:D
     
  8. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    If and when, you are cleared to own a firearm; the suppressor goes easily.

    Europe is quite different; for example in Germany hunting is a profession not a sport. The power of air rifles is limited so many popular high power models sold here are not legal in Europe. In many nations your firearms are stored by the local PD.
     
  9. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

    I guess doctors never tell you how much there services cost,,,, so they wanna know if your armed before the send you the rediciouls bill.
     
  10. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    I'd be tempted to say...firearms'd be the least of your problems.... my dog'd rip yor balls off if you managed to cross my property line and my wife would have you eating your own arm if you managed to make it into the homestead. : O
     
  11. Expatman

    Expatman Monkey

    I am in agreement that it is none of their business.

    I have also heard of Pediatricians asking children if they know of anys guns in their home. Has anyone ever heard of that before?
     
  12. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    My concern is OPSEC... telling anyone what you do or donot have at your abode allows others to pass that info on to others...
     
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  13. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Up here in Alaska, where MOmma and I live, it is EXPECTED, that every household has at least ONE Firearm, and more likely, multiple FireArms. this includes just about EVERY MD, and SocialWorker. I dar say that no one is asking that question, up here, and if they actually did ask, it would be a discussion of the What the doctor and Patient would be using on their NEXT Hunting Trip. ...... YMMV.....
     
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