Never, never assume anything. If at first you don't succeed, try try again! For 24 hours my previous untouched mini targets mocked me. I ignored the obvious. I had posted 2 side by side targets at the top of my target frame. paced off the correct distance. and let her rip like it was real. not practice. this rifle had never ever been fired at anything but 25 meters before. "appleseed shoot, and more practice afterwards." it can and will shoot one hole groups at that extremely short range. even with my dumb mass behind the trigger. it was sighted in as 1.5 inch high at 25 meters. what i assumed were hits off the target, low on the target backboard must have been prior holes from earlier shooting. I can only assume (here we go again) that my earlier scope setting for 25 meters was putting my shots at 100 yards 5 inches or greater, high above the 1/4 mini targets. Todays shooting was done in the rain. totally open, in prone on a tarp. Both me and the rifle which i will immediately clean thoroughly were drenched to the bone. I figure the minutemen didn't go home because of rain! I will return my sights to the 25 meter setting and await a sunny day before wasting any more ammo on the unknown. My patrol MBR will be my main go to gun until I get this resolved. I will fire my 11 rounds thru the patrol rifle tomorrow, rain or shine, same conditions across the board except excellent H&K diopter rear sight with standard hooded post on front. In case any have not read my earlier posts on this particular course of fire. I am shooting prone with a bipod. actually I accept any position for this challenge except bench rest. shooting sticks okay. sitting next to a small tree using it for support fine. over a log or bedroll in any position. just not benchrest. this should be a hasty solid semi concealed or reduced exposure quck and dirty course of fire to see what you and your rifle can do in a grab it and go situation. no sighter rounds. just 11 rounds on 2 army 1/4 reduced 100 yard qualification test upper torso silhouettes. one shot with a cold barrel on the 1st target, immediately followed by 10 shots rapid fire with your now warmed/hot barrel on the second target. I hope you are all aware that in most all cases that your cold barrel shot and your warm barrel shots will not fall at the same exact spot. In most cases the center of the 10 shot group, and the cold barrel shot will be slightly off. Maybe by a minimal amount, but in some odd cases 3 to 6 inches. you should know, and IMHO a battle rifle should be sighted in for that warm/hot barrel center of group point. you must be aware of the cold barrel difference if any, but in the fog of trying to stop multiple targets as far away as you are capable you shouldn't have to shift your aim to compensate. You can do that with the first cold shot. JMHO of course ..... new report to follow tomorrow rain or shine. The targets i use are available through "Fred's military M14 Rifle Stocks, in Shotgun News, or www.fredsm14stocks.com, or ph 336-879-2144 mods feel free to remove the plug if you feel it is inappropriate. I thought it had value to all.