Range Report: PTR 91 MSG 91

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  1. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    "By Wilburn Roberts published on July 6, 2017 in Firearms

    As a person of Scottish heritage, I am adamant that quite a few people today do not really understand how much we gained, or how much we stood to lose, in the last election. Freedom seeking people came to America. So, it was with my hearty Scots as they fled the detested Crown. By the same token, in the South we are accepting refugees from the People’s Republics North of the Mason Dixon line. There are many freedom loving people in Connecticut, New York, and New Jersey that have seen the socialist-Marxist creep into government and make life difficult through onerous taxation, regulation, and laws, making honest business practically impossible.

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    The PTR 91 MSG is a desirable, accurate and reliable rifle.

    Among the businesses that have resettled and are flourishing in South Carolina is PTR rifles. The business climate in Connecticut was impossible not only for a gun business but business in general. PTR builds an excellent 7.62x51mm rifle based on the Heckler and Koch G3 rifle."


    for the rest go have a look is a rather long article but descriptive... not a fan of CtD but...


    Range Report: PTR 91 MSG 91
     
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  2. Altoidfishfins

    Altoidfishfins Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I had an HK-91 that was purchased before the import ban. Misplaced it and haven't seen it in years.:rolleyes:
     
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  3. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    I hate when that happens. ;)
     
  4. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    The only thing that took this style rifle off my list was the chamber fluting dents on spent brass. If you don't reload no issue, I do so it is. I still like them.
     
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  5. Altoidfishfins

    Altoidfishfins Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I've resized the brass and reloaded as I would any other - no problem. It does leave vertical powder burns along the side of the case so it's not real pretty.
     
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  6. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Metal weldin' monkey

    I've found that I don't get as many reloads out of HK fired brass as I do from non fluted chambered rifles. I keep my brass divided. HK and non HK.

    "I had an HK-91 that was purchased before the import ban. Misplaced it and haven't seen it in years."

    Years ago I traded a 1976 4x4 short box step side Chev straight across for a true HK PSG1 with every accessory that was available from HK at the time with the fitted hard case. Took the HK rep out to my shooting range one Sunday morning and he fell in love with the truck and "just had to have it.."
     
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  7. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I know nothing about them but they are indeed a good looking firearm. And, good for them about leaving Connecticut! I just wish they would have come up here to gun friendly state of Idaho with their jobs.
     
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  8. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    I still have and enjoy my CETME and is dosent mangles brass near as bad as some of the H- K series. Like others, I do not get quite the life out of my brass as I do with others, but it's still not as bad.
    I always wanted a PSG1 like you Tully, but the 10k price was way out of my range, so I got a kit with the correct oversize flats and found all the specific exceasories and now I have one that shoots every bit as good as a real one
    I also built a FAL from an 80% Receiver kit and did a customer match barrel, it shoots every bit as good as the H- K and didn't cost near as much.
    Love the G- 3 series of rifles, once you know how to care for them, they run every bit as good as any later design, and will last and keep shooting!
     
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  9. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I misplaced a G3 H&K somewhere, the bottom of a local lake, I think....never did care much for the mushy feeling roller action on H&K, just doesn't feel nearly as crisp as
    my M14
     
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  10. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    I had an original HK-91 liked it but I moved to the STG-58 & Israeli HB rifles and never looked back the adjustable gas system on the FAL is very nice.


    Side note:
    After shooting my 91 a friend bought one and unknown to me bought a sealed can of surplus Indian military 7.62 x 51 which was corrosive..
    He ran a few hundred rounds USA & Indian through it and did not immediately clean it in fact he waited a few days to clean it and spot his less than one year old HK-91 had a sewer pipe barrel:(

    There is still corrosive ammo for sale older Comm block ammo should be checked
     
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  11. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Metal weldin' monkey

    This is where I get a lot of my HK stuff from. Very respectable and have always shipped my kits and jigs out most Ricki Tic.
    HK91, G3, Receiver, Build Parts, Gunsmithing, Tools, Weld Kits, Flats, HK, PTR91, German Parts, Surplus, RTG Parts
     
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  12. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

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  13. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Metal weldin' monkey

    I'm with @stg58 on this. I much prefer FAL series of rifles to the HK line. BOTH are excellent and well proven in battle, but the adjustable gas system is a big plus for this reloader, and I hate that the bolt doesn't lock back on the last shot on the HK-personal quirk. I love my Israeli HB, and they don't mess up the brass.

    This is good to know about the CETME! I recently picked up an older one along with 7 or 8 mags for 3 bills. The previous owner put on a different forearm that looks and feels like crap to me so I've ordered a different set of furniture for it-the old HK green stuff. I've not shot it yet, honestly I kinda planed on shinin' her up a bit and turning it, but I may have to rethink it now.
    What kind of barrel did you use on the FAL?
     
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  14. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    I had Douglas twist up a full custom 22 in barrel and I supplied an over size gas block for them to fit and time to the gas tube and receiver. It's kinda sorta like a factory HB, but it also has a 1in9 3/4 twist to help with 200 gr projectiles. I then threaded the muzzle and fit it with a Vortex flash suppressor with silencer adapter. She runs really nice and will out shoot my M1- A national match!!! The barrel only cost $500 with me doing the final chambering and timing to the reciever!
    For me, the CETME is a truck gun, something I can toss some one to help lay down suppressive fire. It a Century built stainless receiver and has the full 21 in barrel that I cut the welded flash hider off of and threaded to take the Browning bar short type suppressor. For a Century built, I got very lucky in that I have had very few problems that were common to this platform and not related to a lack of craftsmanship, mainly mag feed issues and tuning. Personally, I really like the Navy version with the early H- K plastics, gives it a nice StormTrouper look!!!
     
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  15. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    I use stock Israeli barrels all on Imbel type III receivers.
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    When I took apart the three kits I picked up from CDNN one of the pistol grips had a small amount of sand in it odd wondering the tails mil surp weapons and equipment could tell.
     
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  16. JLRhiner

    JLRhiner Stranger in the Modern World

    I just added a PTR-91 to the safe a couple of weeks ago. I had some experience with a G3 some years back and wanted a new toy. So far, fun and accurate.
     
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  17. Grand58742

    Grand58742 Monkey+++

    I had one of the original JLD marked PTR-91s at one point in time. Liked it, handy sucker, accurate and reasonably ergonomic (though I never got used to the mag release being pretty far forward), but sold it during the Great Run of 2012-13.

    Though never cared for the trigger that much. Of course, there were upgrades, but it was always a fun shooter rather than a serious rifle for me.
     
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