reaction to cnn/beck declaring paulites dangerous terrorist

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tango3, Nov 16, 2007.

  1. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

  2. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Re: reaction to cnn/beck declaring paulites dangerous terror

    This is the letter I sent:
    There are an increasing number of Americans that understand that our constitution was not granted to us by the government, it is our (we the people) employment contract with them and if they don't start listening to us, we will throw their sorry ass out just like we did king George. If that makes me a domestic terrorist, then so be it. I cannot believe that idiot Beck would liken Dr. Paul to a terrorist but I can believe that if he doesn't make a retraction quick, your sponsors will not receive any more of my hard earned money.
  3. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Re: reaction to cnn/beck declaring paulites dangerous terror


    Ron Paul Collecting Fans, Big Money

    WASHINGTON (AP) - Those who dismissed Rep. Ron Paul as a joke in the Republican presidential primary campaign aren't laughing so hard these days.
    The Texas libertarian's rise in the polls and in fundraising proves that a small but passionate number of Americans can be drawn to an advocate of unorthodox proposals such as returning to the gold standard and abolishing the income tax, CIA and Federal Reserve.

    Paul, 72, recently set a one-day, online GOP presidential fundraising record, and pulled slightly ahead of Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee in a New Hampshire poll, where he had 8 percent of the Republicans' support. In Iowa, he tied John McCain for fifth place, with 4 percent each.

    Paul remains a very long shot for the nomination. But as the only Republican candidate backing a prompt troop withdrawal from Iraq—and an airing of possible impeachment charges against Vice President Dick Cheney—he appeals to a mix of liberals and conservatives who feel alienated and deeply distrustful of the government.

    "Where the extreme left and the extreme right meet, you'll find Ron Paul," said Merle Black, an Emory University political scientist and co-author of the book "Divided America."

    "He strikes a chord with some segments of the population," especially with his quixotic, uncompromising style, Black said. "But there's a pretty low ceiling in terms of his actual vote."

    Paul, who earned a medical degree from Duke University and embraces the nickname "Dr. No," often casts the only House vote against proposals he sees as too meddlesome or unworthy of taxpayers' money.

    In recent months he was the only House member to oppose an expression of support for Northern Ireland's new power-sharing government, a condemnation of "the persecution of labor rights advocates in Iran" and a statement citing the importance of "providing a voice" for relatives of Americans who have vanished.

    He was one of two Republicans to vote against funding the Defense Department in 2008, and against urging the release of Burmese opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi.

    Paul is Congress' most prominent advocate of returning to the gold standard, which the country abandoned in the 1930s. In its purest form it would mean that all paper currency in circulation could be redeemed for gold.

    Supporters say the gold standard would curb inflation and boost confidence in the economy. But others say it would trigger severe recessions because the Federal Reserve could no longer manage the money supply in times of economic weakness.

    For that matter, Paul would eliminate the Fed altogether as an impediment to free markets.

    Paul breezily talks of eliminating the personal income tax, saying it provides about 40 percent of federal revenues, which spending cuts could absorb. The government's funding level would approximate that of he says, although government statistics put the figure closer to 1995.

    In a phone interview Wednesday, Paul said he is inching up in the polls "because more people have heard the message."

    He said he was stunned when supporters raised $4.2 million for him on Nov. 5, mostly through the Internet. It broke Mitt Romney's one-day fundraising record, $3.1 million, for Republican presidential candidates.

    "Something is going on," Paul said. "It's all spontaneous," he said, and reflects a hunger for smaller government, greater adherence to the Constitution and "a pro-American foreign policy."

    Paul said the United States should leave the United Nations. "I don't like giving up our national sovereignty," he said.

    The government should gather intelligence, he said, but dismantle the CIA, which he accused of blunders and abuses of power.

    Democratic-drafted charges that could lead to a House impeachment vote against Cheney, Paul said, deserve careful deliberations by congressional committees.

    Presidential debate moderators typically pay scant attention to Paul and two other House members seen as fringe candidates. But he has triggered some crackling exchanges on the Iraq war, unusual for primary campaign debates in which most candidates hold similar views.

    At a mid-May debate in South Carolina, Paul infuriated Rudy Giuliani and others by saying U.S. troops' presence in Saudi Arabia contributed to al-Qaida's decision to attack the United States on Sept. 11, 2001.

    "If we think that we can do what we want around the world and not incite hatred, then we have a problem," Paul said. "They don't come here to attack us because we're rich and we're free. They come and they attack us because we're over there."

    Many Republicans condemned the remarks. But Paul's supporters rhapsodize about his candor and integrity on Web sites and at "meet ups."

    "We didn't really believe we could find an honest politician," said Cecelia Poole of Elkton, Md., describing how she and her husband intensely researched Paul's record. First drawn to Paul's hardline stance against illegal immigration, Poole said she found herself agreeing with him on monetary policy, the war and other issues.

    "He would turn this country around in the way that it needs to go," said Poole, a semiretired mortgage broker. She and her husband now travel to several states, she said, "promoting him everywhere we go."
  4. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Re: reaction to cnn/beck declaring paulites dangerous terror

    If he can be one of the top three contenders at the Convention, he stands a chance however small. And, if he is not nominated for the party's choice, then there could be a huge write in vote. That will assure the donkeys of the office and sink the elephants, but the message will be a whole lot louder about what the silent majority really wants of the Executive branch and of Congress. We WILL have a change, however trifling.
  5. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Re: reaction to cnn/beck declaring paulites dangerous terror

    It wouldnt even be by a write in if he wasnt nominated. The Libretarian party from what I hear has already decided that they will nominate him if the Repubs dont and if they do they will send their votes his way, I have heard that the Constitution party has similar plans as well. So while I hope and expect to see him as the Republican nominee, if he isnt it would be te best chance there has been in decades for a third party win since multiple 'third parties' would be combineing to support the same 'third party' candidate.
  6. ozarkgoatman

    ozarkgoatman Resident goat herder

    Re: reaction to cnn/beck declaring paulites dangerous terror

    To have two parties nominate him would really put him out there on a wider scale. Lets just hope the Repbs. pull their heads out of their rear-ends. #&!! maybe all three parties can nominate him. [beer]

  7. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Re: reaction to cnn/beck declaring paulites dangerous terror

    The 2 'third' parties mentioned from my understanding dont intend to run anyone against him if he is nominated. Not sure if they would 'officialy' nominate him if the Republicans do but they would encourage all their people to vote for him, so basicly he already has the 2 parties nominations and it just depends on if he gets the Republican nomination or not wether its 2 or 3 parties voteing for him on top of those voteing against Hitlery.
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