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Reading a PDF on an eBook?

Discussion in 'Survival Reading Room' started by Bandit99, Dec 27, 2018.

  1. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    For me, One of the greatest creations of all time was the creation of the Kindle. I am an avid reader and have thousands of books. Kindle allowed me to easily take all of my books with me if I moved to a different country or just a few if I just going to the mountains for a weekend of skiing. And, the Paperwhite Kindle is even better because of integrated light, font sizing and long life battery.

    Here's my problem... I have many books and documents in PDF format but they will not convert cleanly to any eBook reader. The formatting gets destroyed, some characters don't transfer, on and on. I have tried everything that I can think of and nothing works. Oh, I can convert it but it's pretty bad. I am currently reading a 1000 page history book which all the dates didn't convert leaving a '?' in their place...kind of important to have dates in a history book. LOL! Another example, I have a very good PDF of John Ross' 'Unintended Consequences' which is out of print and probably never will return so...

    So, I am thinking of getting a small Tablet like a Amazon Fire or something cheap, running Adobe Reader on it so I can read my PDFs library the way it was meant to be read - meaning - correct font and formatting, illustrations/pictures/maps.

    1. Anyone has a Fire 8 or Fire 10 and reads PDF files?
    (it supposedly can read them without Acrobat but supposedly a Kindle can also which is true to an extent...but the font is so small and you can't enlarge it so in truth it's impossible to read.

    2. Anyone has a Tablet that they read PDFs
    I assume this is a no-brainer but would like to hear of some inexpensive ones if you got one...

    3. Recommendations?
    I do have a small laptop but I hate reading on a laptop...
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2018
  2. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    @Bandit99 does it have to be a tablet?

    we have devices that can read PDFs and most other formats as well :) :)

    they can also run free office suites that can read and write PDFs and many other formats, open and closed

    they are small and fairly light for the performance they provide

    ya have the option to install all kinds of fonts and the font size is not going to be problem since you have the option to adjust that :) :) (y) (y)
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  3. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey Site Supporter

    You might have to down load a pdf file to adjust the text size, but it shows up on
    John Ross
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  4. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    we had an ASUS board/product in mind too :) :)

    it can support displays from about 3" to 65" plus
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  5. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    An iPad will do it also. I use an old second gen...does kindle as well.
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  6. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    I use my iPad Retina for reading my Online Books, as well as all my Radio, Technical & Electronics Manuals, that I keep in .PDF Format... Works really well for quick references in the field... I have the Kindle App on it for downloaded Books, and a couple of different ,PDF READERS for the tech stuff...
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  7. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    @BTPost Yeah, that is exactly what I was thinking of doing also. It works well, yes? I don't need anything expensive, just a tablet that will runs Adobe Reader and display correctly without any proprietary BS. I was thinking of the 10" Fire but from what I am reading I am not so certain it doesn't have some of the same problems as the Kindle with PDFs but think if you run Reader it would be okay but don't know anyone who has one...

    @sec_monkey I will PM you about this "ASUS board/product" tomorrow as it is getting late here. But, I want something no bigger than a large paperback book. I want something that displays the PDF correctly, something rock solid...which I don't think I will get without running Adobe Reader but... I will do a quick query on the 'Nexus ASUS' then off to bed.
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  8. snake6264

    snake6264 Combat flip flop douchebag

    Try a program called Calibre its a great little library program that will convert any ebook file to about what ever type you want PDF Mobi AZW3 EPUB I use it with my Kindle my fire and my samsung tablets no issues and the guy updates about once a month
  9. Tevin

    Tevin Monkey+++

    I vote for the iPad too.

    Last year on Prime Day I bought an Amazon Fire for $49.00. It wasn't horrible but it clearly did not perform beyond its price tag. Not surprisingly, the only thing it did real well was the eBook reader and Amazon app. I've recently seen them on sale for $29.00.

    I finally gave up and got an iPad. It does everything flawlessly. It's very smooth, never crashes or stalls. Third party apps work like they are native to the device.

    That's the difference between the $49.00 Fire and the $450.00 iPad.
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  10. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus Site Supporter

    I second Calibre. Used it to convert tyo and from virtually every ebook flavor out there, including PDF. Maintains formatting, etc.
  11. hammerdrop99

    hammerdrop99 Monkey+++

    +1 on giving Calibre a try. Very easy to use and I convert Epub and PDF files to MOBI all the time. And it's free.
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  12. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    the Linux tools are free too :) :)
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  13. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    @hammerdrop99 and @DarkLight and @snake6264 Yes, I have used Calibre for years and it is without a doubt the best, all purpose, eBook Utility available. But, unfortunately, it also cannot convert PDF decently either. The best way I have found is to send the PDF to Amazon's converter, which takes a few minutes, then run it through Calibre, which gives a product far from perfect but is sort of readable. And, if you simply read the PDF using Calibre it uses Adobe Reader which is integrated.

    Please don't misunderstand, Calibre is an amazing product and constantly improving. The problem is the PDF format is/was never made for eBooks. It was made for documents. It's not the converters fault it is simply a case of trying to put a square peg into a round hole.

    I am thinking I am going to try a Amazon Fire 8 for around $65 since all I want it for is specifically for reading PDFs. This gets me 16Gb of ram which should be more than enough to run Adobe Reader and the book. I am not crazy about reading a thousand page book with Adobe Reader but its better than trying to guess at what is written and if it doesn't work then I am out only $65 bucks. I don't think there is any other solution except to do what @Tevin did and that is to purchase a decent Tablet which I probably need to do someday but currently don't have any use for it besides as a reader...I already have a huge and expensive TV for watching films and an expensive desktop computer that I built so...it would simple sit and gather dust until I wanted to read a pdf...better to get something cheaper and more specific to the problem.
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  14. DKR

    DKR Interesting ideas, interesting stories

    I have a Gen 5 Fire and read PDFs, You may need to zoom in one some, but it does work.

    The Ipad offers a bigger screen at 10X to 15x the cost...
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  15. snake6264

    snake6264 Combat flip flop douchebag

    Yeah I bought the Samsung 10 inch tablet before christmas for about 100 bucks
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  16. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    Thats what I paid for my iPad 2...
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  17. I have a large pdf library collection that I have put together over the last 10 years. And have tried to read them on many sizes and types of screens, computers, and tablets. I have to say my Best setup has been a 10" android tablet, any smaller and some Pdf's can be hard to read. Especially If there are drawings and pictures. At present I have about 28 Gigs of How to info. on just about any topic you might need. not only do I back up all info on DVD's, but also on USB drives that I can carry and use on any device.
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  18. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I have come to the same conclusion. Trying to solve my problem cheaply, I bought a Kindle Fire 8 inch...I hate the damn thing. The main reason is it's like this giant Billboard and it's always trying to sell me something. I can't even delete some of the apps on it! They are some Kid things apps on it and I'm stuck with them. As soon as someone cracks it then I will hack it. I've actually thought of giving it away. I'll probably get a Samsung 10 inch tablet in the near future.
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  19. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    You might like a iPad 9”. That is what I use, and only load the Apps that I use a lot... The ones I use infrequently, I keep on my older iPad3 along with most of my .PDFs...
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  20. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    Bandit we can make ya one without any apps or any known spyware :) :)
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