Report from the border

Jeezuz its sounds out of control,
You guys should throw it in reverse ( the back up light might help andthen back up afew feet before putting it park( listen for the thump) word will get around ..
short shotguns, big handguns,"boot" knife and ahidden deepcover weapon or two"and a generic hancuff key (perhaps a razor knife blade hidden in a boot heel or the inside lining of a tall boot or thick belt.) becareful man. This is the USA?

 

Now you know that they are only here to do the jobs that Americans won't

 

I'd like to see a mine field along the entire border. It just makes me mad as hell. We also need to have open season with no bag limit on Illegals. I fear it will take something like a nuclear terror attack here & then discover they came acrossed the southern border, before our politicans are forced to get off their asses & close it down.

 

I think all of the above is true and probably only hitting the bottom of the real problem. Since NAFTA went in and we started the free trade thing with them all hell has broken loose in Mexico. A good portion of their small farmers have been forced from their land, some estimate 20 % of them, and any worker who tries to form a union or asks for higher wages is either fired or killed. Mexico is effectively in a stage of low grade civil war. The starving masses against the new $billonares. Some made the money on business, some on drugs, some inherited it, and some on crooked government, but most of the people in Mexico are worse off now than 10 years ago. I can't even keep track of the places where the "army" is in charge of the peacekeeping which to me is occupation. A couple or three states and several towns that I know about of offhand. Well they are in the middle of a SHTF, or at least the least educated ones are and the only hope of feeding their families or getting ahead is leaving. We talk of bugging out and survival in hostile territory and what to do after "it" happens. A lot of countries south of the border have already had "it" happen. Now the interesting part begins. They are going "socialist" in Venezuala, Nicaragra and I don't know where else. It seems to me that the poor are a little upset with the oil companies paying their countries 50 cents a barrel for oil that brings $60 on the world market and they really wonder if that deal signed by the oil companies 60 years ago when the US marines occupied the country is really valid. Only God knows where that will end and I don't see any quick improvements no matter who wins.

Short and not so sweet, until conditions improve south of the border, they will be like my German ancestors and do damn near anything to leave Germany and get into the US. A hundred and fifty years ago my greatgrandfather and his brother got on a boat in France with money given to them to buy a ticket to replace someone who had been "drafted" into the Union army and could hire a replacement. They didn't know English, knew that they were going into a war as privates, and could well die of disease or wounds. Sounds to me that they must of been very unhappy with their lives and futures in Germany. Some were lucky enough to stay alive until the war ended and they could homestead land in Minnesota and make enough to bring over their wives and rest of the family. One of them was my greatgrandfather, but another one that didn't was his brother who is burried at Gettsyburg and who left no descendents. Like it or not, we for the most part are the children and decendents of the survivors of the earlier waves to come to the country. I expect most of them came because they had no hope in the old country and at least some hope in the USA.

 

Cool, can't believe they would deny you guys personal weapons (guess the company could get sued?)Isthere alot of cover (waist high grasses around? or is it just open with a ditch along both sides of the road?? They make "flameshooters for the tailpipes of streetrods, a sparkplug wirth somekind of pressurized fuel delivery. booby trapping like that is probably ilegal, though they look cool, push the button oncewhile you are parking; twice if you smell burnt hair...Do you guys have a ready response security team in case your trailer gets overrun on those solo nights..or are you supposed to call the local police or bp? Man you are exposed out there....

 

Soundsto me like one of those situations where the moto 'concealed means concealed' comes into play. Have the concealed carry permit and keep it on you always.

 

Back in the 1960's worked for the phone company in El Paso Texas and was out all night working radio relay towers. There was a area the size of
Rhode Island or larger with only 3 or 4 police on duty from 2 to 6 AM and they used to steal the copper wire off the poles and take it into Mexico for scrap. We all ignored the company policy of no firearms and did it legit. Don't know about the good old boys where the oil rigs are, but at that time we were nearly all deputy sheriffs. Didn't get paid, but were legal as hell and the local law loved the idea of having someone with a gun and a radio in the area at 3 AM that they knew as backup. Never shot anyone. but a couple of times convinced someone to stay where they were, once up on a pole, until the local law got there to take over. If the next person that is a permanent resident is 5 or 10 miles away and I am out on the border at 3 AM I sure as heck would want at least a concealed weapon permit, but would really prefer a legit deputy sheriff badge and a way to tie into the law enforcement comm system. Personally I would much rather use the system then try to fight it.

 

Come on NorthAmerican Union!!....Cops that don't give acrap..and fireman who wouldn't whizz on you
if you were on fire!!

 

I think that something concealed in deep cover would be a good corrective action "after the fact". Something along the lines of a mini-revolver, or a Kel-tec .32 or .380. You can conceal these pistols really well. I doubt that some wets looking to kidnap you would do a really thorough job of frisking you. Maybe in an ankle holster, or even front pocket you might have the opportunity to take action when their guard was down and they assumed that you were unarmed. I have one of the NAA mini-revolvers in .22 mag. and I really like it. It is so small you could put it just about anywhere.

I don't know if you have a weapon mounted light, but that is another idea that you might want to think about.

A nice shotgun with a light attachment by the pickup door, you could rack it when you opened the door to let them know you are armed and mean business. That distinctive noise seems to be known by all. They might just skip you and wait for easier prey.

 

Good plan.

I would still bring it. Even if you have to leave it in your truck on the site. I would feel naked that far away from home without a rifle or shotgun, especially on the border.

 

wear it , or have a pocket sewn down thefront of your pants ... men are reluctant to search another guys' crotch area too thoroughly...Just don't go shooting your package off...(with your pistol.(?)


Maybe a removable bootheel
,course you probably wear steeltoe workboots, not cowboy boots
Naa should be relatively easy to hide in the pants
a real man can hide an L frame.

 

New guy here. I carry a NAA .22 in a knife holster on my belt and have for years. I'm a 30 year retired military guy and been on hundreds of bases and forts and never been a question about it. Of course I've never been searched but it does make a great little back-up to my 1911 in .45.

Like Minuteman, I've spent considerable time on the border with MMCDC and TXMM in 2005 & 2006 in Fabins and Fort Hancock, TX and Columbus, NM. Gotta say, it's a hell of a mess down their but lots of fun runnin em on ATV. Looking forward to April 07 back on the border.

 

Texas back in the 70's...

Back in the 70's when I was livin' in s.w. Texas it was pretty bad. The wetbacks were many, and would frequently pass through the ranch I was livin' on. To make a loooooong story short, my parents had a radio at their house 'cause some of the Mexicans would knock on your door & ask for food, water, coffee, a place to rest & etc and if ya didn't give 'em what they wanted, sometimes they'd shoot & kill ya for it. Some of the folk on the neighboring ranches where we lived were shot & killed. I can just imagine what it's like down there NOW???? I haven't lived in TX. since '82. My old stompin' grounds were in Lajita's TX. (<--speaking of GOATS... THE MAJOR OF THE TOWN IS A GOAT! LOL) Candelaria (there use to be 2 old gals/sisters who ran a country store there in that little town) & I loved Big Bend Park, GORGEOUS COUNTRY!!!!
Now I am a converted Ozarkian HILLBILLY! YEE HAW!!! LOL

Best of luck & THANKS for your efforts!

~Wildernessgal~

 

Good deal. I think you will like the NAA. I think the little gun is built like a Swiss watch. If it doesn't come in in time for you to take it, stop by my place on the way through and you can carry mine until yours comes in. That little .22 mag is not a .50 BFG, but it is better than the gun you couldn't carry and left at home.