Return Of The Militias

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by Mountainman, Aug 15, 2009.

  1. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

  2. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    I can put NO stock in what the vapid and rabidly liberal extremist SPLC has to say. What they are seeing is a large part of the normally silent American Citizenry finally fed up with the political excesses of the FedGov and finding their voices at last. They are letting those in power OVER us to know We The People are displeased. The SPLC is using the typical Leftwing Liberal tactic of painting any opponents to their fearless leader as radical rightwing extremists, and therefore as latent terrorists and militia members - when we are anything but! They likely will try to paint all those who panicked and bought all those guns and ammo as 'militia types stocking up to take over the Government!" Pure hogwash we know, but they will have their cronies in the MSM spoonfeeding the lies to the American Sheeple. This will be the opening salvo in a new stronger war on our rights to Keep & Bear Arms.
  3. NVBeav

    NVBeav Monkey+++

    Very interesting article. They hammer on the wedge of race/immigration to divide every chance they get.

    It's also interesting all the 'spying' they do on conservative groups. Conservatives aren't organized enough to spy on them - perhaps we need to keep a closer watch.

    Another interesting aspect of the article is their "looking down the nose" at the reports of "Internment Camps". I have always discounted the idea of citizen concentration camps, although you can't put anything past the Socialists currently in power -- perhaps there really is something to it.
  4. NVBeav

    NVBeav Monkey+++

    Very good assessment.

    The leftist media people are every bit - and maybe more - of the problem than politicians.
  5. overbore

    overbore Monkey++

    ONe man in Atlanta posted that garbage again just as he did last November. Same drivel, repeated by the same MSM lap dog. SPLC is not truly southerm, they are not in poverty, what is shoveled out is not law, nor legal nor official and they are not a center for anything but socialist New Speak LIES.

    Other than that---[lolol][lolol][lolol][lolol]he is almost credible---:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Laus Deo
  6. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    I watched each networks coverage of this report. And as expected all of the liberal ones were a hyperventilating, alarmist, pants wetting farce.
    The Fox anchor was the only one to bring up the fact that the SPLC had a lot of critics who claimed they "sold fear".
    But even they continued to list in a "fact box" during the report, incidents of "Militia violence". They had of course Tim McVeigh ( who traveled the country from Michigan to Texas trying to join Militia groups and none would have him, they saw he was either a plant or a wacko), James Von Brun who shot a black gaurd at the Holocaust museum in DC ( a white supremacist not related in any way to any Militia group), and other acts by people who had nothing to do with the Militia.
    The SPLC is a joke. They make their money by hawking paranoia. They are the leading purveyors of "hate speech" in this country.
    They sell their reports to law enforcement agencies around the nation and they take them as gospel truth.
    Without a "boogieman" to frighten the sheep they would be out of business.

    "This man [Morris Dees] works to gain the trust of young people by displaying the evils of admitted racist organizations that have a tiny number of adherents. Mr. Dees then proceeds to propagate the notion that conservative organizations -- particularly those that are pro-gun or anti-government -- pose the same dangers, and thus, must be impeded."

    This is a good summation of the SPLC (Spreading Propaganda and Lies Center)
    This is just a few snippets from the long article. Full article at link.
    (The emphasis is mine)

    The Church of Morris Dees
    By Ken Silverstein -- Harper's Magazine, November 2000

    How the Southern Poverty Law Center profits from intolerance

    Ah, tolerance. Who could be against something so virtuous? And who could object to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Montgomery, Alabama-based group that recently sent out this heartwarming yet mildly terrifying appeal to raise money for its "Teaching Tolerance" program, which prepares educational kits for schoolteachers? Cofounded in 1971 by civil rights lawyer cum direct-marketing millionaire Morris Dees, a leading critic of "hate groups" and a man so beatific that he was the subject of a made-for-TV movie, the SPLC spent much of its early years defending prisoners who faced the death penalty and suing to desegregate all-white institutions like Alabama's highway patrol. That was then.
    Today, the SPLC spends most of its time--and money--on a relentless fund-raising campaign, peddling memberships in the church of tolerance with all the zeal of a circuit rider passing the collection plate. "He's the Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker of the civil rights movement," renowned anti- death-penalty lawyer Millard Farmer says of Dees, his former associate, "though I don!t mean to malign Jim and Tammy Faye." The Center earned $44 million last year alone--$27 million from fund-raising and $17 million from stocks and other investments--but spent only $13 million on civil rights program , making it one of the most profitable charities in the country.

    In 1987, Dees won a $7 million judgment against the United Klans of America on behalf of Beulah Mae Donald, whose son was lynched by two Klansmen. The UKA's total assets amounted to a warehouse whose sale netted Mrs. Donald $51,875. According to a groundbreaking series of newspaper stories in the Montgomery Advertiser, the SPLC, meanwhile, made $9 million from fund-raising solicitations featuring the case, including one containing a photo of Michael Donald's corpse.

    Horrifying as such incidents are, hate groups commit almost no violence. More than 95 percent of all "hate crimes," including most of the incidents SPLC letters cite (bombings, church burnings, school shootings), are perpetrated by "lone wolves." Even Timothy McVeigh, subject of one of the most extensive investigations in the FBI's history-and one of the most extensive direct-mail campaigns in the SPLC's-was never credibly linked to any militia organization.
    Any good salesman knows that a products "value" is a highly mutable quality with little relation to actual worth, and Morris Dees-who made millions hawking, by direct mail, such humble commodities as birthday cakes, cookbooks (including Favorite Recipes of American Home Economics Teachers), tractor seat cushions, rat poison, and, in exchange for a mailing list containing 700,000 names, presidential candidate George McGovern-is nothing if not a good salesman. So good in fact that in 1998 the Direct Marketing Association inducted him into its Hall of Fame.
    . The SPLC is already the wealthiest civil rights group in America, though this letter quite naturally omits that fact.
    Today, the SPLC's treasury bulges with $120 million, and it spends twice as much on fund-raising-$5.76 million last year-as it does on legal services for victims of civil rights abuses. The American Institute of Philanthropy gives the Center one of the worst ratings of any group it monitors
    The SPLC's "other important work justice" consists mainly in spying on private citizens who belong to "hate groups," sharing its files with law-enforcement agencies, and suing the most prominent of these groups for crimes committed independently by their members-a practice that, however seemingly justified, should give civil libertarians pause.
    What the Center's other work for justice does not include is anything that might be considered controversial by donors. According to Millard Farmer, the Center largely stopped taking death-penalty cases for fear that too visible an opposition to capital punishment would scare off potential contributors. In 1986, the Center's entire legal staff quit in protest of Dees's refusal to address issues-such as homelessness, voter registration, and affirmative action-that they considered far more pertinent to poor minorities, if far less marketable to affluent benefactors, than fighting the KKK. Another lawyer, Gloria Browne, who resigned a few years later, told reporters that the Center's programs were calculated to cash in on "black pain and white guilt."
    On average, the SPLC classifies an estimated 47 percent of the fund-raising letters that it sends out every year as educational, including many that do little more than instruct potential donors on the many evils of "militant right-wing extremists" and the many splendid virtues of Morris Dees.
    In the early 1960s, Morris Dees sat on the sidelines honing his direct-marketing skills and practicing law while the civil rights movement engulfed the South. "Morris and I...shared the overriding purpose of making a pile of money," recalls Dees's business partner, a lawyer named Millard Fuller (not to be confused with Millard Farmer). "We were not particular about how we did it; we just wanted to be independently rich."

    In 1965, Fuller sold out to Dees, donated the money to charity, and later started Habitat for Humanity. Dees bought a 200-acre estate appointed with tennis courts, a pool, and stables, and, in 1971, founded the SPLC, where his compensation has risen in proportion to fund-raising revenues, from nothing in the early seventies to $273,000 last year. A National Journal survey of salaries paid to the top officers of advocacy groups shows that Dees earned more in 1998 than nearly all of the seventy-eight listed, tens of thousands more than the heads of such groups as the ACLU, the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, and the Children's Defense Fund.
    Soon the SPLC will move into a new six-story headquarters in downtown Montgomery, just across the street from its current headquarters, a building known locally as the Poverty Palace

  7. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    The SPLC was a contemptible rabble rousing operation in the 70s that did little beyond collect headlines. Looks like nothing has changed other than it is a wealthier rabble rousing operation now.
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