RollingStone MAG. Claims 2nd Amendment Must Be Repealed

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Salted Weapon, Jun 15, 2016.

  1. Salted Weapon

    Salted Weapon Monkey+++

    The writer of the article is delusional and in true liberal fashion knocks the founders and knocks the 2nd Amendment. Explains how many people die and how we ( gun owners ) claim liberty is why we can have guns and be allowed to kill people.
    The ignorant fool BY DAVID S. COHEN on June 13, 2016 wrote the below.
    Why It's Time to Repeal the Second Amendment

    Now once again you can read this article and see that the educated and self proclaimed Constitutional Teacher leaves out in his rant the main purpose of the Second Amendment was built to keep the Government in check, not the people. His article would have the American people believing the 2nd Amendment was to grant the people permission to be armed not to ensure they were.

    No No No, No, now read the federalist paper and hearings before the second amendment was enacted. It was clear that they wanted a law to keep this new managing government and her army in check. You will find the brilliant professor forgot that part of history, you will also find lacking in his article any mention of the Second Amendment existing for the people to control the government if that was so and you remove the Second Amendment, how pray tell does one keep the government in check. This is why also soveregn states were granted ability to have trained Militia to keep the federal government in check and in that same Second Amendment says the people as well.
    This delusional nut bag actually thinks the government is in charge of us? Now if you did not think at thier core every democrat wishes for socialism just read the article and see how clear he states a matter of safety and security the people should be disarmed, not the government. The people should be disarmed for their own safety ??
    Yet the 100% purpose of the Second Amendment was to ensure we could if needed control the government.
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  2. Oltymer

    Oltymer Monkey++

    The legal process to repeal an amendment of the constitution is so involved and time consuming it would simply never fly. The control freaks in the dark gov have no intention of following this process to achieve their goal of disarmament of the populace and will use fear and disinfo along with a declaration of martial law, similar to what was done on and after 9-11. An event is on their planning horizon that will entail the death of 100's, 1000's, perhaps 10's of thousands of American's, then they will spring their trap.
    The Bill of Rights, covered in the first 10 amendments to the constitution are the recognition by the government of God given rights each citizen has and over which the government can have little if any say, despite cawing to the contrary. They dark gov thinks they can acquire the power of total control when Martial Law is instituted, regardless of legalities or moral ground.
    So much freedom has already been trampled, and laws broken, all in the name of safety and security. I see today where they are passing the gun control efforts to Homeland Security in effect by-passing law, and putting it up to a government bureaucracy to pass rules enacted as laws which they don't have the authority to pass. Where is Congress, where is the military, where are the law enforcement officers, all sworn by oath to protect the Constitution, our country and its citizens as their first duty, but most are pretty much brainwashed and bought and sold out to dark gov without their recognition of what constitutes legal government, or even what rights citizens actually have.
    The 2nd is the muscle that preserves the other 9, without it we will just be slaves to whatever weird world the dark gov freaks have dreamed up, if we even survive. The 2nd is also our ticket to arrive at a new refreshed gov, with dark gov destroyed, totally defeated, and traitors hunted down, tried, and punished according to their crimes, much in the way of the Nuremburg Trials of Nazi war criminals after the defeat of Germany in WWII.
    It took real men and women with balls then, and it will take the same when this SHTF. So each day we need to grow stronger, smarter, and braver. Many of us will have to make the ultimate sacrifice for our Country, just the way it is, in the end we shall prevail, nothing can really stand before us that cannot be overcome.
    Prepare, keep a cool head, don't do anything stupid, and maintain.
  3. marlas1too

    marlas1too Monkey+++

    all gun laws today are completely against the constitution. the damn liberals can't grasp the weaning of shall not be infringed. let me put in a way a child can understand -leave our gun rights alone period
  4. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Without the second, it's just the Bill of Suggestions.
  5. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    He may "teach the Constitution" but he is clueless concerning its meaning and intent.

    Bottom line: the Constitution does not grant rights. The Constitution is a blueprint for the federal government, outlining its duties and responsibilities. The Bill of Rights merely enumerates and attempts to guarantee certain unalienable human rights that predate government and the Constitution. Thus the repeal of the 2nd Amendment...even if they could pull it off...does not revoke our right to keep and bear arms because the right was never dependent upon the Constitution in the first place. Unalienable rights are only dependent upon our willingness to either cede them or defend them.
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  6. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I like peeling bananas and (occasionally) people.

    Spot on, Chimo. Good post!
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  7. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Metal weldin' monkey

    Keep Calm and Aim for the Head.
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  8. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++

    I stopped reading that rag after the Bill Clinton interview back in '94.
  9. Salted Weapon

    Salted Weapon Monkey+++

    There are other countries with these included in their " bill of rights " 16 bill of rights exist in other nations. The reason is the same and not to arm citizens , but like our own to protect ourselves from our government and each other. Sad the smaller countries get it.
    The Political Correct ( Racist Liberals ) crowd argues that these bills in other countries do not count as over half are in South America.
    Yep our southern friend need to disarm and die according to liberals. We are not unique as much as we like to think we are until last 70 years even the UK and Australia had gun rights now its people are monitored like sheep, over taxed and have lost all rights to help run their country.
    Example of why we have a Second Amendment and why it came to pass we maybe should think about it was, Kings Charles II and James II succeeded in using select militias loyal to them to suppress political dissidents, in part by disarming their opponents…Under the auspices of the 1671 Game Act, for example, the Catholic James II had ordered general disarmaments of regions home to his Protestant enemies…These experiences caused Englishmen to be extremely wary of concentrated military forces run by the state and to be jealous of their arms. Fast forward to todays liberal White House is attempting exactly this. Arms may have improved the threats are still very much real.
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  10. Salted Weapon

    Salted Weapon Monkey+++

    I thought it a Liberal knee jerk reaction, people die lets spit on their graves and a talk about something else mentality. The bodies were not even cold and he was thinking about his article.
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2016
  11. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    That article was the biggest exercise in mental masturbation I've ever read.
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  12. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    Justice Joseph Storie wrote in ; Geo Political - Familiar Exposition On The Constitution by Story | Survival Monkey Forums

    (Page 264) Regarding the second amendment;

    "One of the ordinary modes, by which a tyrants accomplish their purposes without resistance, is, by disarming the people, and making it an offence to keep arms, and by substituting a regular army in the stead of a resort to the militia. The friends of a free government cannot be too watchful, to overcome the dangerous tendency of the public mind to sacrifice, for the sake of mere private convenience, this powerful check upon the designs of ambitious men.
    The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any person, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defence of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers."

    " The rights of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpations and arbitrary power of rulers; and it will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them."

    This book is well worth the read, even tho it is dated, the words still ring true to these times.. Further I would add that the warnings against a standing army mentioned in all the old text would be the alphabets of dot guv..
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