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Rule #1. The Gun is ALWAYS loaded

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by poacher, Jan 24, 2008.

  1. poacher

    poacher Monkey+++ Founding Member

    The first rule we learn is the gun is always loaded. The second is never point it at anything you are not willing to kill or destroy. This should re-enforce these rules. It is not real bloody but it is fairly graphic. http://dishhead.home.insightbb.com/leg.html

    Take care Be safe Poacher.
  2. sniper-66

    sniper-66 Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Good post, complacency will bite you in the arse every time!
  3. Valkman

    Valkman Knifemaker Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I saw that on The High Road. 4 holes in the leg - yikes! I had a ND around '95 with a Ruger MK II .22 and to me it was like a bomb going off it was so loud. Luckily, unlike this guy, I had the gun pointed away from myself and just put a hole in the wall.
  4. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    guilty: one inadvertant discharge age 16..cheap RG .22 SA shot a hole in the floor, I thought I was smarter than that;( wasn't) lesson(respect) stayed with me my whole life...very good post.Think about it every time I go into the gunracks of gander mtn,and muscle my way to the rifle rack between 16 guys picking up rifles/shotguns and throwing them to the shoulder. Truthfully; I've caught and stopped myself doing that; stupid lasts for a long time.
  5. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    There is no such thing as an AD in my mind. ND (negligent) is the way I look at them. Yep, I had mine.
  6. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    Now see, I've never believed in rule #1. But always in rule #2.

    Now, before I draw fire for that...... Know that I am psychotic about gun safety, and in 35 years of shooting have never had a single unintended discharge.

    But I've practiced a lot with an "unloaded" gun in the house, especially drawing and twirling my colt peacemaker that I would have never done with a gun that I was assuming was loaded.

    I've got faith in my ability to clear a weapon, double or even triple check that it's unloaded, and then be able to treat it as such. Keeping in mind to still never point it at anyone else, even when it's confirmed as unloaded.
  7. NVBeav

    NVBeav Monkey+++

    I grew up with a friend whose dad taught us great gun safety. While at their ranch, I was given an old pellet rifle to shoot and it would discharge all by itself! Needless to say, they wouldn't believe I didn't do it -- it was really depressing but understandable (good safety lessons were always followed, so no one got hurt).

    Finally, one day the rifle went off on its own -- and I was no where near it... They all apologized to me for not believing my story, but, the truth is, I may not have believed either.

    Bottom line is: listening to instruction can prevent a lot of misery. That's life.
  8. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Pictures do indeed tell a 1,000 words.

    I have not as of yet had a ND. I do check the action each and every time I handle any firearm. Even brand new ones at my buddy's gun shop.
  9. ozarkgoatman

    ozarkgoatman Resident goat herder

    My Dad beat these rules into my head when I was young and have never had a problem. Our daughter has learned the same lessons. I have given her loaded guns and told her to go put them up, she has always done so safely. She will be 8 y/o next month, her grandfather (wifes father) I would not hand a loaded gun to and he's almost 60. He is just to unsafe around firearms. [beat]

  10. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I have never had an accidental discharge. I did shoot a hole in the frame of my sliding glass door one morning while shooting at a starling in the back yard. I was sitting at my breakfast table with the door open. I followed the target with a suppressed .22 pistol and when the bird hopped behind the door frame, I shot a hole through it. That was embarrassing.o_O
  11. Wild Trapper

    Wild Trapper Pirate Biker

    I assume, (wrongly), that all guns are loaded when I go to handle them, but rule #2 rules, that and the one about keeping my finger off the trigger. While I'll practice with an empty gun, I always obey rule #2.

    Only had one ND that I can remember in my life. It was with a .22 rifle and I was aiming it in a somewhat safe direction, so no harm was done. It did scare me enough I have been extra careful ever since.
  12. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Ive never had what most would consider/recognize as an AD/ND so far, though have come close a couple times when lowering a hammer on a round and and had the hammer slip from my thumb. I tend to agree that #2 (never point a gun at something you are not willing to make a hole in/destroy) is even more important. I have also fired a very few times before I was fully settled on my target but was already pointed downrange in a safe direction and generaly on targetbut maybe not RIGHT were I wanted to hit.

    I ALMOST agre with ghrit. I figure the VAST majority of 'ADs' are in fact NDs but I still can see where there CAN be true ADs, generaly from something involving mechanical failure of the gun or secondary to some other accident. Things like if a firearm is being carried in a holster in condition 1 and a person falls and Murphy gets involved and the jarring and unknown mechanical problems with the gun allows it to discharge or similarly in a car accident where the inertia COULD concievably throw the hammer back, faulty ammo with a primmer not seated properly adding to it, etc. IOW VERY rare that I would consider a firearm dischargin when not intended to be an 'accident' rather than negligence but could see it happening.
  13. MbRodge

    MbRodge Monkey+++

    It looked like there was a Federal Hydra shock in the picture with the fragments for size comparison. I wonder if that is what was loaded when the incident took place.
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