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saving seeds

Discussion in 'The Green Patch' started by marlas1too, Oct 2, 2016.

  1. marlas1too

    marlas1too Monkey++

    was at my local hardware store and was there to buy loose seeds for next year and got a lot of their greens seeds and other green things. I put them in 1/2 pint canning jars enough to fill 3 cases. squash,cumber.greens,carrots,radishes.melons,peas.beans,tomatoes,hot peppers and herbs should have enough for several years .vacuum packed them all.will start most in the house at the end of feb. maybe will get more before next year. trying to think ahead for a hard future and be prepared.I urge all to be prepared for SHTF just look at Venezuela .the socialists have destroyed their country and the people are starving I don't want that to happen to my family
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  2. BlueDuck

    BlueDuck Monkey

    Good time of the year to stock up on this last years seeds. Usually some great savings. Several times I have tested seeds 5 years or more out of date and they germinated just fine. I generally plant my new garden with new seeds because I want the best chance, but I keep a good supply of out of date seeds on hand just in case.
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  3. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey++

    My wife always grows one or two of each vegetable (flowers also) not picking it and lets it grow to seeds which she uses for next year. Being from a third-world country, this is how she has always done it. Like you, she takes them and starts them in the house then moves them outside to the garden. I'm dumb as dirt when it comes to a garden and just the laborer, do as I am told so I get to eat. :) It works well as I get fresh vegetables and she gets to order me around which she loves to do. LOL!
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  4. Thunder5Ranch

    Thunder5Ranch Monkey

    I did a test a while back on the best way to save seeds. Now this is going to sound a bit odd but 2" PvC pipe cut into 1' sections Vac Packed Radish, Paris Island Romain and Black seeded simpson lettuces, asparagus seed, broc., Scarlet Nantes Carrot, swiss chard and turnip seeds in individual vac bags stuffed them in 3 pipe sections, glued and sealed the ends. Then I buried the pipes below the frost line. Dug the first pipe up at 5 years and had 85%-92% germination. 10 years dug the second pipe up and had 70%-75% germination. last year I dug up the last pipe at 15 years and had 35%-55% germination. With the carrot seed being having the worst and the swiss chard having the best. Wish I had done a 4th pipe back then just to see what 20 years would look like. Glue held and the pipes stayed sealed, would say 10 years in stable temps, dark and dry is the cut off to still have enough viable seed to be worthwhile. Refrigerator and freezer saving seeds is a bad idea as newer units do not maintain a stable temp and cycle to defrost. Ever leave a tray of ice cubes in the freezer forever and notice when you remember them, that there is only about 1/2 of a ice cube in each hole :)
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  5. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Moderator Moderator Site Supporter++

    @Thunder5Ranch interesting experiment. The chard did well because it is a hardier seed. Low light growing plant and can withstand colder weather. Where did you get the idea to bury seeds? Was it just to find a stable temperature place to store seeds?
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  6. marlas1too

    marlas1too Monkey++

    i have taken one of those decorating Indian corn you hang on the wall mine was over 20 years old but every kernel I planted came up and the corn grew and produced ears
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  7. Thunder5Ranch

    Thunder5Ranch Monkey

    I watched some documentary about a seed bank in some underground bunker kind of place. If I am remembering correctly and that was like 18 years ago. About that time I started the experiment putting valuables in PvC tube and sealing it was real popular. The Documentary I do recall stressed that the stable temps with little variance was a critical factor in the long term storage. Since I did not have a multi million dollar facility the PvC pipe idea down about 5 feet where the ambient soil temp in this area is between 50-52 degrees just seemed like a good idea. I had initially thought about sinking them to the bottom of a old 25 foot deep shallow well, but there were complications with that.... Like how to retrieve them after years. I have a habit of trying things just to see what happens. My wife says this is why she will live longer than me :) For this experiment though I just wanted to see how long I could store seeds and them still be viable. I also wanted to test the PvC pipe and glue seal before putting anything of higher value in them and caching it under ground.
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  8. Thunder5Ranch

    Thunder5Ranch Monkey

    Corn and Beans have very long shelf lives without a lot of special care. Biggest problem with them are mice and bugs.
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