SC to Hear D.C. gun ban case!!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by kckndrgn, Nov 20, 2007.

  1. kckndrgn

    kckndrgn Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court said Tuesday it will decide whether the District of Columbia can ban handguns, a case that could produce the most in-depth examination of the constitutional right to "keep and bear arms" in nearly 70 years. The justices' decision to hear the case could make the divisive debate over guns an issue in the 2008 presidential and congressional elections.
    The government of Washington, D.C., is asking the court to uphold its 31-year ban on handgun ownership in the face of a federal appeals court ruling that struck down the ban as incompatible with the Second Amendment. Tuesday's announcement was widely expected, especially after both the District and the man who challenged the handgun ban asked for the high court review.
    The main issue before the justices is whether the Second Amendment of the Constitution protects an individual's right to own guns or instead merely sets forth the collective right of states to maintain militias. The former interpretation would permit fewer restrictions on gun ownership.
    Gun-control advocates say the Second amendment was intended to insure that states could maintain militias, a response to 18th century fears of an all-powerful national government. Gun rights proponents contend the amendment gives individuals the right to keep guns for private uses, including self-defense.
    Alan Gura, a lawyer for the D.C. residents who challenged the ban, said he was pleased that the justices were considering the case.
    "We believe the Supreme Court will acknowledge that, while the use of guns can be regulated, a complete prohibition on all functional firearms is too extreme," Gura said. "It's time to end this unconstitutional disaster. It's time to restore a basic freedom to all Washington residents."
    Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, said the Supreme Court should "reverse a clearly erroneous decision and make it clear that the Constitution does not prevent communities from having the gun laws they believe are needed to protect public safety."
    The last Supreme Court ruling on the topic came in 1939 in U.S. v. Miller, which involved a sawed-off shotgun. That decision supported the collective rights view, but did not squarely answer the question in the view of many constitutional scholars. Chief Justice John Roberts said at his confirmation hearing that the correct reading of the Second Amendment was "still very much an open issue."
    The Second Amendment reads: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
    Washington banned handguns in 1976, saying it was designed to reduce violent crime in the nation's capital.
    The City Council that adopted the ban said it was justified because "handguns have no legitimate use in the purely urban environment of the District of Columbia."
    The District is making several arguments in defense of the restriction, including claiming that the Second Amendment involves militia service. It also said the ban is constitutional because it limits the choice of firearms, but does not prohibit residents from owning any guns at all. Rifles and shotguns are legal, if kept under lock or disassembled. Businesses may have guns for protection.
    Chicago has a similar handgun ban, but few other gun-control laws are as strict as the District's.
    Four states—Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland and New York—urged the Supreme Court to take the case because broad application of the appeals court ruling would threaten "all federal and state laws restricting access to firearms."
    Dick Anthony Heller, an armed security guard, sued the District after it rejected his application to keep a handgun at home for protection.
    The laws in question in the case do not "merely regulate the possession of firearms," Heller said. Instead, they "amount to a complete prohibition of the possession of all functional firearms within the home."
    If the Second Amendment gives individuals the right to have guns, "the laws must yield," he said.
    Opponents say the ban plainly has not worked because guns still are readily available, through legal and illegal means. Although the city's homicide rate has declined dramatically since peaking in the early 1990s, Washington still ranks among the nation's highest murder cities, with 169 killings in 2006.
    The U.S. Court Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled 2-1 for Heller in March. Judge Laurence Silberman said reasonable regulations still could be permitted, but said the ban went too far.
    The Bush administration, which has endorsed individual gun-ownership rights, has yet to weigh in on this case.
    Arguments will be heard early next year.
    The case is District of Columbia v. Heller, 07-290.
  2. sniper-66

    sniper-66 Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    How did this make it onto the radar screen without any of us knowing before hand, or did I just miss it? Of all the issues that we debate daily, this is paramount to about everything we all believe and no one saw this one coming? Guess that is what happens when the tin foil hat gets down over the eyes! Someone pass the scissors so I can cut some eyeholes in my foil!
  3. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    The whole case has been pretty well exposed here (VA, just outside of DC) but has not had a lot of bugling elsewhere apparently. Living here, it wasn't mysterious. Fenty (DC's mayor) can't keep his yap shut on the subject, nor can that witch that is now the Chief of coppers in town. I betcha there will be an incredible pile of amicus curiae filed.
  4. griffin1340

    griffin1340 Monkey+++

    Yeah, I loved the quote from DC'c mayor on the cbs news last night...something to the effect..."This will be a clear win for DC as anyone knows that the 'militia' is the National Guard, and no one thinks that this is an individuial right."

    Do any of the rest of you forsee a rash of false flag- high profile 'gun crimes' coming in the next few months?
  5. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I had known for a while that the ban was challenged and overturned and was TRYING to get heard by the SCOTUS but it just got accepted for review yesterday. It COULD turn out to be a very good thing since it IS obvious to any serious reading that 2A IS an individual right and so long as the supreams uphold that then it could provide solid grounds to challenge many other gun laws. OTOH if they attempt to use it to legitamize a large scale gun grab.......dose anyone remember what the final catalyst was that had the shot heard around the world fired?
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