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SCOTCH IRISH

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by OldDude49, Mar 24, 2020 at 3:44.


  1. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

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  2. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I'm Scotch/Irish also! As best we can figure, they went to Northern Ireland from Scotland in an government effort (English of course) to basically colonize Ireland, better said as to control and civilize, by bringing good solid protestants and turn them into loyal English-speaking subjects which they did. And, who better to do it than the Scots. We figure they then immigrated to America during the Famine of 1845. Yep! Scotch/Irish to the bone!

    EDIT: BTW - good video! Watching it now...Thanks!
     
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  3. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Scotch here... Gordon & Erskine Clans.....
     
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  4. Tempstar

    Tempstar Praeclarum Site Supporter+

    Campbell Clan here.
     
  5. apache235

    apache235 Monkey+++

    Kennedy clan and NOT that Kennedy
     
  6. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Not a spot of Irish. Clan MacFarlane all the way 'till a Hun got loose in the Highlands.
     
  7. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

  8. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Guthrie clan here.
     
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  9. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    I thought this thread would be about two of my favorite whiskey families...

    No Irish or Scott blood I'm aware of, but am of Norwegian descent. Sorry about all that raping and pillaging a thousand or so years ago. I'll do my best to behave myself.
     
  10. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey++

    There is no Irish in the Scots, and no Scots in the Irish. Actually, the Scots-Irish prefer to be called Ulster-Scots. My Scots ancestors were sent over by King James of England and Scotland to subdue (kill) the Irish and settle (take) Ireland. That explains just about everything you will ever need to know about the last 400 years of Irish history.
    The Scottish settlers were told that they could farm all the land that they could take and hold, and they proved to be more than a match for the Irish. They killed or drove the Irish from their lands, which helps to explain both the hatred between the Catholics and the Protestants, and the Irish Travelers. However, every farmstead and town had to serve as a fort when needed, and the need was frequent. Life was good for about 100 years, but increased rents, religious intolerance, and the promise of "free land" in the New World called.
    The Colonies were offering free passage and land to all Protestant settlers...proof was required, but there was always a taint about anything Irish and some Colonies were at first unwilling to accept these "Irish" settlers. Some ship's captains were required to post bonds assuring that their human cargos wouldn't become burdens to society. NO IRISH NEED APPLY! didn't only apply to the starving Irish Catholics fleeing the Potato Famine a century later. However, as soon as the colonial authorities learned that the Ulster-Scots had no desire to remain in the more settled regions, but wanted some of that "free land" on the frontier, they were escorted to the edge of town and told," to march westward until you hear a Indian war-cry and that is your farm". The Indians never stood a chance! The Plantation of Ireland was a perfect training ground for the conquest of North America, and the Scots were the perfect people for the job. These people included the likes of Davy Crockett, Daniel Boone, and Andy Jackson. They were fighters, according to General George Washington, General Andrew Jackson, General Robert E. Lee and others. I'm proud to say that these are MY FOLKS!
     
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  11. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey++

    When I first signed up for Ancestory's DNA test I was surprised by the lack of "Viking blood" in my results...only 5% Danish. I guess that my ancestors must have been very mean, very ugly, or else the hide-and-go-seek champions of the Dark Ages.:LOL:
     
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  12. Thunder5Ranch

    Thunder5Ranch Monkey+++

    50% Oglala 25% Irish and 25% Italian Lazy Hothead that drinks too much and likes pasta, with strong desires to burn wagons and scalp people with rusty butter knives. Was hoping for something more exotic in the mix.
     
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  13. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Irish and Scottish lineage here....the dark horses (most likely stolen) came from the English line. ;) That's on Ma's side. I think my dad's side featured in 'The Boys From Brazil' :oops:
     
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  14. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Good old Convict Blood there Chell.....
     
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  15. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey Site Supporter+++

    Irish ancestors arrived in 1750 as an indentured servant and worked on a plantation in Maryland until he payed his dept plus another five years to finance a move to the wilderness.. Moved his wife ( the daughter of the plantation owner) and his brother, across the mountains to north east Ohio.

    The Scott and his family came to the colonies on board a prison ship after being convicted of, no record of what crime. Served as a ships captain during the revolution.
     
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  16. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey++

    One of my ancestors was an indentured servant in Tennessee in the early 1800s, he and his sister were granted their freedom early when they married the daughter and son of the farmer that held their papers.
    Better an exiled convict in the Americas or Australia, than a dead convict. Historically, there wasn't a large number of imprisoned people in Europe, or anywhere else, as the punishment for hundreds of crimes, both major and minor, was death. Also, a large number of debtors were "relocated" to the colonies to work-off their debts.
    Many of the Scots and Irish that fought in the American Revolution saw it as a chance to screw the Brits. I'm reminded of that line from the movie "Braveheart", "...if I join you, do I get to kill the English?".
     
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  17. wideym

    wideym Monkey+++

    I also did the Ancestry DNA test. Not much of a surprise there with family names such as Wallace, Chamberlain, and English. Although there was a fair percentage of Scandinavian and Norman mixed in there. I have to admit that senator Warren has more Native American blood than my family, much to my sister's chagrin as she has claimed to be a lost native princess for years.
     
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  18. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey++

    Everybody"s sister thinks she is a "princess"!:LOL:
     
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