Seafloor collapse around well head reported

Well thats cool
Live video link from the ROV monitoring the damaged riser

they are showing "top kill" a picture of the BOP , be nice if they showed the feed from the riser end we have been watching all week, I'm sure there's a bot there watching the effects.;Of course they don't owe us civilians a front row seat to any of this.

 

Why the hell not. I don't care what they say about BP paying all this. That's hoooey, it will all get passed on to the consumer. US!!!

 

alternate feed during "topkill" operation:

we haven't seen this particular leak before:


http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3&hpt=T1

 

what I saw before looked black.... this looks gray .... is that because of the clay mud that is being introduced?

 

yet another view: all rover feeds:
CNN.com Live

Theplume in the left hand feed looks smaller (better) than its been previously. I got pretty wrapped up in this story; I am feeling surprisingly good seeing this thing back down, hope I'm not wrong.

 

"Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!"

 

"game ooooover maaaan"!

 

Hey there he is! Was waiting for you to sound off on this topic abit
The oildrum has a page of illustrations and a pretty informative comments section with lots of oil industry people..

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6505

 

All Quiet At BP Blowout. Did Top Kill Work?
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Looks like they ran out of mud on the pumping ship.... but, it appears to have stopped the leak. now they are talking about a more permenant concrete plug to permenantly seal it.

 

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may27 feed (live1905) feed
Live video link from the ROV monitoring the damaged riser

 

That's Alot of Mud

I heard on the news today that BP has paused the TopKill effort to await delivery of 15,000 bbls of heavy drilling mud. Not being privy to the specifics, I would guess it is around 19 to 21 pounds per gallon (ppg). The logistics involved in getting that kind of volume in reasonable "kill mud" condition (ie: a fluid able to suspend the barite weighting additive) is a very very big job, no doubt involving every mud company operating on the LA/MISS/ALA even east Texas Gulf coast with building fresh volume and using all available stored liquid mud.

This also could indicate that whatever subsea BOP apparatus they are tied into at the ocean floor is serviceable, and that BP is seeing progress in waging the fight to kill the blow-out. Again, not seeing the actual schematics of their well, my guess is that BP is going to proceed incrementally in killing the well, monitoring progress in pressure indications and cautiously avoiding formation fractures below the casing in the open hole.

 

How'boutthis one Matt Savinar:" There s a completelty separate leak 5-6milesfrom this BOP.

Thursday, May 27, 2010
ursday, May 27, 2010

Prominent Oil Industry Insider: "There's Another Leak, Much Bigger, 5 to 6 Miles Away"



Matt Simmons was an energy adviser to President George W. Bush, is an adviser to the Oil Depletion Analysis Centre, and is a member of the National Petroleum Council and the Council on Foreign Relations. Simmon is chairman and CEO of Simmons & Company International, an investment bank catering to oil companies.
Simmons told Dylan Ratigan that "there's another leak, much bigger, 5 to 6 miles away" from the leaking riser and blowout preventer which we've all been watching on the underwater cameras:
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<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cDGAoU1H2gM&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="385" width="640"></object></center>I have no idea whether or not Simmons is right. The government should immediately either debunk or admit his claim.
If accurate, the bigger leak could have been caused by the destruction of the well casing when the oil rig exploded. That is Simmons' theory.
Or it could be caused by a natural oil seep, although the odds of a seep of that size occurring right around the time of the Deep Horizon disaster is nearly zero.

There is another possibility.

It is well-known that there were previous accidents at the Deepwater Horizon rig. For example, as AP notes:

From 2000 to 2010, the Coast Guard issued six enforcement warnings and handed down one civil penalty and a notice of violation to Deepwater Horizon, agency records show.
On 18 different occasions during that period the Coast Guard cited the vessel for an "acknowledged pollution source." ​

And as 60 Minutes reports:

[Mike Williams, the chief electronics technician on the Deepwater Horizon, and one of the last workers to leave the doomed rig] said they were told it would take 21 days; according to him, it actually took six weeks.
With the schedule slipping, Williams says a BP manager ordered a faster pace.
"And he requested to the driller, 'Hey, let's bump it up. Let's bump it up.' And what he was talking about there is he's bumping up the rate of penetration. How fast the drill bit is going down," Williams said.
Williams says going faster caused the bottom of the well to split open, swallowing tools and that drilling fluid called "mud."
"We actually got stuck. And we got stuck so bad we had to send tools down into the drill pipe and sever the pipe," Williams explained.
That well was abandoned and Deepwater Horizon had to drill a new route to the oil. It cost BP more than two weeks and millions of dollars.
"We were informed of this during one of the safety meetings, that somewhere in the neighborhood of $25 million was lost in bottom hole assembly and 'mud.' And you always kind of knew that in the back of your mind when they start throwing these big numbers around that there was gonna be a push coming, you know? A push to pick up production and pick up the pace," Williams said.
Asked if there was pressure on the crew after this happened, Williams told Pelley, "There's always pressure, but yes, the pressure was increased."
But the trouble was just beginning: when drilling resumed, Williams says there was an accident on the rig that has not been reported before. He says, four weeks before the explosion, the rig's most vital piece of safety equipment was damaged.
​

It is therefore possible that there has been another ongoing leak which BP has tried to cover up.

​

Washington's Blog

 

Hidden Possibilities

It could be possible that the formation is already fractured, and/or is spewing oil at another location, and BP is having to fight the well with kill mud containing formation "plugging material" (normally called lost cirulation material) which would partially explain the news report for 15,000 bbls of heavy "kill mud", maybe pre-mixed with the formation plugging material.

The actual root cause to the sad chain of events in the Deepwater Horizon disaster has strong possibilities of pointing to one or more of the following: defective BOP system, inadequate BOP system for the demands of this particular well, defective BOP parts recently installed, defective installation procedures, pressure test results indicating problems that were ignored by BP, the attempt to save money by "cutting corners" in rushing the "cure time" needed for the various cement jobs by Halliburton. And on and on.

To paraphrase an old quote, "What a tangled web they weave when they seek to deceive."

 

a conspiracy site (ATS) thinks it implys BP has another drill hole in this field they admit to screwing up and having to cut the drill stem in the hole to abandon it.Ats conversation thinks the previous hole started leaking ( there were reports of an oil slick before the fire and sinking of deep water horizon.)The dog and pony show (topkill) is a halfhearted effort because they arej ust covering up a major illegal; blunder that was already spewing.(??)
This site is very fringe and say 30% reliable( just an interesting idea)_
linkhttp://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread575906/pg1
guess it goes from here right into the tfhl

 

This will happen more and more.
As the price of oil rises, so will the risk/reward factor.
More companies will move into uncharted territory and more accidents will happen.

You would hope that this would make the public aware of the peak oil crisis. But if history is any indication, the neo-cons will continue to exclaim the SUV as a constitutional right and the libs will continue to belittle oil as a mere luxury.

 

hello oil its... baaaaack:
Either the BP Oil Gusher Has Just Completely Blown Out, or BP is Implementing LMRP RIGHT NOW → Washington's Blog

 

<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width=493><TBODY><TR><TD>What if oil execs said what they were thinking?

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<I>"The Gulf of Mexico is a very big ocean. The amount of volume of oil and dispersant we are putting into it is tiny in relation to the total water volume."
BP CEO Tony Hayward

In a world where big oil executives say exactly what they’re thinking…

At a hastily called news conference, Tony Hayward, the tanned and curly-haired Chief Executive of BP, said the company was about ready to cease efforts to contain the oil flowing from its deepwater Gulf well.

“We’re going to give this ‘top kill’ idea a try with the mud and the cement,” Hayward stated, “but if that doesn’t work, we’re outta here. We’re grasping at straws, anyway. We really don’t have a clue how to fix this thing.”

One visibly distraught reporter from the New Orleans Times-Picayune asked, “How can you do that? People are counting on you.”

“Well, that would be their mistake, wouldn’t it?” Hayward replied. “You know, we would keep at it, but frankly, these cleanup and containment efforts are costing us a lot of money, and to tell the truth, we’re just not that into it.”

Another reporter asked about the still untried plan to clog the well with shredded rubber tires, knotted rope and golf balls.
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A reporter for the Mobile Press-Register asked, “Isn’t BP subject to some stiff fines and possible criminal charges if you just bail out?”

“HA HA HA,” Hayward laughed, “the statutory cap on our liability is $75 million. We’ve already spent ten times that on this blowout. Meanwhile, our corporation makes $25 billion quarterly. We can hire really good lawyers.”
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD class=photo-left></TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo-left></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>When asked about the massive cleanup of coastal marshes and wildlife sanctuaries, Hayward replied, “BP doesn’t do cleanup. It’s just not that cost effective. We leave that to the Sierra Club and all the other environmental types who enjoy that sort of thing.”

“Look,” Hayward went on, “the thing BP is really good at is finding oil. We can smell money a mile away, or a mile deep in this case. But we’re not so good at shutting down gushers that get away from us. Now, if there were some profit to be made in that, maybe it would be a different story.

“So here’s what’s going to happen,” the CEO continued, “sometime this week we’re going to try this ‘top kill’ idea, which we fully expect to fail like all our other crazy ideas, because frankly, we never had an emergency plan in place and we’ve been making it up all along.

“After that, we’re pulling out all out ships, our submersible robots, our technicians, everything. We’ll leave the miles of booms in the water since it’s not worth it to us to pick them up and they aren’t worth a damn anyway.

“Then we’re going back to what we do best: extracting oil from the earth for profit from our other 22,000 wells and platforms in the United States and its coastal waters. Drill, baby, drill!”

The Chief Executive turned away from the podium and headed for the exit. He stopped just before the door and added a final comment.

“Look at it this way, you’re going to be better off with your Army Corps of Engineers handling this. They might actually give a damn. The sooner they get on it, the better.

“Oh, and the 5,000 barrels a day we’ve been telling you is leaking? That’s pure baloney. It’s more like 20 times that. We lied about it as long as we could to limit our liability.

“Finally, all you thousands of fishermen and others whose livelihoods are disappearing, I feel for you. BP will help you in any way it can, short of handing you a bunch of money. That we’ll fight in court for years, even decades, to come. You all will be lucky to still be alive by the time this gets settled.

“Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a date with a tanning bed.”


The above is not a true conversation with the BP CEO, but instead a what if commentary from a small Florida Newspaper. Author and source below.

<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 align=right><TBODY><TR><TD class=photo-right></TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo-right></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Ray St. Louis’ column, “Between The Lines,” is published in The North Florida Herald the second and fourth Thursdays of each month.
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