My carry gun is a .357 mag and currently I keep it loaded with generic jacketed hollow points but am looking for a good defensive ammo for it that will deliver maximum energy to the inital target (as in go in with lots of energy and not come out) and that would also minimize any concerns of ricochet. I know a lot of them that are out there and that would seem to meet these criteria but it also has to have enouph penetration to reliably penetrate a skull if needed. I have had ammo that would have met all the other criteria and thought would be great but shot a pig in the head with it at point blank range 3 times and all 3 just flattened on the skull and didnt penetrate into the brain. I would most likely be going for chest shots if I had to use a sidearm for defence but want to be sure it can make a good head shot as well if needed. I was basicly wondering if anyone had done or knew of any real world type ballistic tests of the various defence ammo (preferably not just from its manufacturer) that test and show how they do at penetrating a hard surface (similar to bone) then going into soft tissue as well as into things that would simulate chest shots. I like the idea of the glasiers but dont know if they would penetrate for a head shot. Im not real familiar with how the hydro shocks are put together or how they work, just that they are popular. Pretty much the same for some of the others. I was just hoping someone here might have used some for hunting or tested them in some other way so could get some more info on them since with a lot of them selling at $2/round or more I cant afford to buy a bunch of the various ones and test them out to see what works. Thanks for any info you may have.