Serious question here

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Quigley_Sharps, Jul 6, 2006.


  1. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    What does North Korea <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:pIran </ST1:p</st1:country-region>and <st1:country-region><ST1:pIraq</ST1:p</st1:country-region> have in common?.
     
  2. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Come on give it a shot you lookers.
     

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  3. Tracy

    Tracy Insatiably Curious Moderator Founding Member

    Your triangle throws me.

    I was going to say the acquisition of technology relating to weapons of mass destruction and advanced conventional munitions/deadly arsenals.
     
  4. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    all people that dislike the US dollar?
     
  5. ghrit

    ghrit Old, mean, and nasty Administrator Founding Member

    Hm. A thought provoker, that one. Somehow, I think there is a hidden laffer --
     
  6. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Other than being the "axis of evil" I am not sure what you are going for.
     
  7. B540glenn

    B540glenn Should Be Working Founding Member

    Jimmy Carter?
     
  8. CRC

    CRC Survivor of Tidal Waves | RIP 7-24-2015 Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    A lot of what others said...and Both dictatorships...
    Both lived in luxury..(while their people starved)
    Killed their own people....
    Both attacked their neighbor....
    Both anti USA and ignored UN...


    Not sure what you are looking for...??


    Ok..I'm an idiot..just saw "Iran"...

    Forgive me..rough last 2 days...duh...

    I give up.
     
  9. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    China is backing them and Bin Laden getting us to use up our resources.
    What do you think?
    Am I crazy?:eek:
     

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  10. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Here is my Proof
     

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  11. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Ever read this and apply it to our time?
    aow2.
     
  12. ghrit

    ghrit Old, mean, and nasty Administrator Founding Member

    There was a bit of a discussion on that tome and it's contents back at our old homestead. Yes, it's been cussed and discussed a few times. The net of it as it applies to my current situation is stealth. Bear in mind that war and survival are not so closely allied to warrant direct comparison, but some of the principles apply. Very useful if rafted up with others of similar leanings and doing patrols.
     
  13. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    There are some of the teachings that China have used
     
  14. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    more
     
  15. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    more
     
  16. ghrit

    ghrit Old, mean, and nasty Administrator Founding Member

    All good in war. Sun does not really address a fully defensive posture except as part of deception on the way toward squashing the enemy. Here and now, most of us are looking at some sort of defense during an SHTF or TEOTAWAKI situation. The advice he gives is suitable if used to harvest an asset, be it land, oil, slaves, or fodder. But when I read him, I really didn't see ready application to the tribal arrangement we've often talked about; that is, operating from a fixed base with full intent to stay and hold rather than conquest or raids off property.

    Geronimo's hit and run tactics worked very well, for example, but at the end he had to hole up. Holding the hole is the hard part against heavily superior forces. And we must assume that the blue hats will have resources that the tribe cannot match. For a small tribe, we might have to assume that even MZBs could overtake.

    Rule of thumb used to be that it takes a 9 to 1 advantage to beseige or overrun a well defended position, not sure about that in this day and age with an Army of One. I think it is a fair assumption that the tribe will not be able to hold out for a significant time once it is located and TPTB decide we need to be addressed for whatever reason. When that happens, stealth and speed comes into play, and we bail out of the indefensible hidey hole. Then Sun's advice becomes far more relevant for foraging and survival operations.

    Or so it seems to me.
     
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