'Shame' and 'guilt' campaign planned to coerce COVID-19 vaccination

Some government leaders have insisted that the economy must remain locked down until a coronavirus vaccine is available.

President Trump has confirmed that several companies are rushing the development of a vaccine, and one could be available by winter.

But the non-profit Citizens' Council for Health Freedom in Minnesota is warning the impact of a vaccine could be worse than not having one.

CCHF said a vaccine could "backfire," noting Dr. Anthony Fauci's Senate testimony May 12 that there are "two major unknowns" about a vaccine.

"First, there's 'no guarantee' a COVID-19 vaccine will work and second, it could 'backfire,' strengthening the virus, CCHF said.

Fauci, the council noted, referenced two previous vaccines that produced a "suboptimal response" that "enhanced pathogenesis of the disease, which is always worrisome."

"I think we should very carefully listen to Dr. Fauci’s concerns," said Twila Brase, R.N., president and co-founder of CCHF. "No coronavirus vaccine has been developed despite earlier coronavirus pandemics."

She pointed out that a 2012 study on the coronavirus funded by Fauci's department made the virus more virulent in the test animals.

"The American public should be concerned about the possibility that a COVID-19 vaccine may 'backfire,'" Brase said.

In the 2012 study, CCHF said, SARS coronavirus vaccines were tested on mice, which were then exposed to the virus.

"Researchers discovered the mice, who were believed to have developed antibodies, had actually gotten sicker," CCHF said. "The study concluded the vaccines had made the coronavirus more virulent, and issued 'caution in proceeding to application of SARS-CoV vaccine in humans.'"

In fact, the study found the SARS-CoV vaccines "all induced antibody and protection against infection with SARS-CoV."

"However, challenge of mice given any of the vaccines led to occurrence of Th2-type immunopathology suggesting hypersensitivity to SARS-CoV components was induced. Caution in proceeding to application of a SARS-CoV vaccine in humans is indicated."

A separate study by Yale on how to market a COVID-19 vaccine advised using messages of "shame" and "guilt" to coerce subjects to take it, even calling those who choose not to vaccinate "not brave."

The study advised using terms such as "self-interest," "community interest, "economic benefit," "guilty," "embarrassment," "anger," "trust in science" and "not bravery."

The study explained that part of the sample group "will be assigned to this message (not bravery) which describes how firefighters, doctors, and front-line medical workers are brave. Those who choose not to get vaccinated against COVID-19 are not brave.

"The (anger) message is about the danger that COVID-19 presents to the health of one's family and community. The best way to protect them is by getting vaccinated and by working together to make sure that enough people get vaccinated. Then it asks the participant to imagine the anger they will feel if they don't get vaccinated and spread the disease.


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'Shame' and 'guilt' campaign planned to coerce COVID-19 vaccination

 

'No religious exemptions': New push for mandatory COVID vaccinations

Three university professors, two of whom are physicians, are calling for COVID-19 vaccinations to be mandatory, with no allowance for religious objections.

The Case Western Reserve University scholars, writing in USA Today, advised that "disincentives" be imposed to ensure compliance, Christian News reported.

"Private businesses could refuse to employ or serve unvaccinated individuals," the professors propose. "Schools could refuse to allow unimmunized children to attend classes. Public and commercial transit companies — airlines, trains and buses — could exclude refusers. Public and private auditoriums could require evidence of immunization for entry."

Dr. Michael Lederman, Maxwell J. Mehlman and Dr. Stuart Youngner acknowledge the measures "might seem draconian and would be costly, but ensuring universal vaccination is a negligible sacrifice compared with the costs, deaths and social upheaval that a sustained pandemic is having on our country."

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In their article, "Defeat COVID-19 by requiring vaccination for all. It’s not un-American, it’s patriotic," they insist there is "no alternative."

"Simply put, getting vaccinated is going to be our patriotic duty,” they write.

Lederman is an infectious disease specialist and professor of medicine. Mehlman is a law professor and director of Case's Law-Medicine Center. Youngner is professor of bioethics and pyschiatry.

The scholars insist a vaccine is needed to achieve herd immunity, contending that waiting for enough people to become infected and then develop antibodies is too dangerous.

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Declining vaccination puts the lives of others at risk, they say.

The only exemption should be an adverse medical reaction to the injection.

"Do not honor religious objections. The major religions do not officially oppose vaccinations," they write. "Do not allow objections for personal preference [either], which violate the social contract."

Many Americans have raised concerns that some COVID vaccines could contain the cells of aborted babies.

On Wednesday, Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison said he wants to make getting vaccinated for the coronavirus mandatory for the citizens of his nation.

'No religious exemptions': New push for mandatory COVID vaccinations

 

My concern with all the rush to develop a cure and/or vaccine is that too much haste will get semi-sorta-so-so "proven effective" drugs into the market place before they are really proven. You think there's anxiety and hand wringing because instant gratification for a cure that isn't happening? Hang on when you see the recalls and raving for a cure for the failed cure.

The medical scientists are correct far more often than politicians.

 

The scam is much worse then the virus...

 

It's not that I'm not brave but I'm not stupid either. Come up with a cure for the common cold first !

 

I'm not an anti-vaxxer and I don't have any religious qualms about getting a shot. Had all my vaccinations as a kid, got ones for hep A and B when I was traveling overseas, started getting tetanus shots after seeing what tetanus did to a goat and deciding that wasn't on my bucket list. No side effects.

However I don't bother with flu shots and every year I have to listen to everyone I know who DID get one complain that they got the flu anyway. I've caught it twice in my entire life. Seems my odds are consistently better than the ones who get the shot.

As for the dim sum flu, I don't trust any vaccine or medication that gets rushed to the market. Since I work from home and can get just about everything I need delivered, I have zero intention of lining up to be a guinea pig in the name of calming public hysteria. Unfortunately my husband doesn't have that luxury and his job will likely force them to get it as soon as it rolls out.

 

This is why I laugh at antivaxxers.
Not getting the flu shot I understand that, it's made me sick numerous times.
I noticed antivaxxers stopped being antivaxxers after them all their kids get some easily preventable illnesses and you have 5 people trying to use 2 toilets at the same time for a week.
Or when a new born dies because someone didn't want to to get a whooping cough shot. That's not funny, but I do think people like that should be charged with negligent homicide.

 

I've got a flu shot and the hep A vax since I started teaching elementary school. Everybody gets sick the first year ( Kinda like the recruit crud in basic.). Anything to mitigate it. Retired now but still keep up. Hasn't made me sick yet. But if "they" come up with a covid vax I'm going to intensify my research on it before I take a needle. Call it my tinfoil hat psych coming through. And if "they" try to MAKE me get it. Weeeeeell. That's a horse of a different color. Red flag. Red flag. Red flag. Putting chinstrap on my tinfoil hat now.

 

Actually I got an idea. I'm getting a flu shot this year... Since I know about 9 out of 10 times I get it will make me sick with china virus like symptoms. Then I will get sent home from work for at least a few days, with pay. I can schedule it to coincide with something else I want to do.
If I get a china virus test it takes at least a week to get results back, but no telling if that will hold true into the fall.

 

The vaccine will end up being worse than the virus.

 

Some time ago when this all started I had some discussions with folks at work about the possibility that vaccination for the Wue Flue would be made mandatory and we would not be allowed to work unless we took the shot. Well, here it comes and no I won't take it. There is a lot more to this than what we are told. It seems like we are being spooked to take a path that is defined by those that do not have our best interest at heart. I think of those people that go with the suggested path to supposed well being for us. Trains and furnaces come to mind. Reservations, disease and starvation comes to mind. First steps to being tagged, branded, and chipped could be the future for those that are wrong thinkers.

 

Am I alone remembering the swine flu vaccine debacle?

not only no, but hell no

 

my father took that.. and had a massive stroke the same day... survived but they had to remove a part of his brain...

bought the size of a golfball...

police used to bring him home to my mother... naked... he would take off all his close n run down the street...

he always had a big grin on his face when they brought him home... there were other issues as well...

no thanks...

 

I’ve seen a bunch of conspiracy theories about the vaccine. Most of them have no proof that it can be done. The one that I know they CAN do is get rid of our belief in God by a shot. There was a youtube video of gates trying to convince politicians that it was proven and effective. The example brain they used for the before and after pictures is the same.

Not sure if they would do that to us, or why?

I’m not against vaccines but I am cautious about new technology because humans have a tendency to mess up and this has been proven to me time to time again. I will let others take it first. OH and because I work with customers I’ve been asking them if they are going to get it and I have yet to get a person who will be willing to line up and be the first one.

 

Swine flu
Version 0.0 (granddaddy of them all)
The H1N1 form of swine flu is one of the descendants of the strain that caused the 1918 flu pandemic. As well as persisting in pigs, the descendants of the 1918 virus have also circulated in humans through the 20th century, contributing to the normal seasonal epidemics of influenza. However, direct transmission from pigs to humans is rare, with only 12 recorded cases in the U.S. since 2005. Nevertheless, the retention of influenza strains in pigs after these strains have disappeared from the human population might make pigs a reservoir where influenza viruses could persist, later emerging to reinfect humans once human immunity to these strains has waned.

Version 1.0 (1976) (G.Ford)
Selected Documents - The Swine Flu Affair - NCBI Bookshelf
"Also, 1/2 of doctors polled said they would not take the vaccine, 1/3 of nurses said the same".
This is a tough one. The FedGov& the Medical-Industral complex sites all claim the vaccine had "few adverse results" with just a handful of deaths form millions of doses. Other sites, non-medical to be sure - claim far higher number. That few in the US were vaccinated isn't in doubt.
This "vaccine program" was sold in much the same way the COVID vacine is being pimped - massively inflated number of dead form the disease vs the 'safe' vaccine. This HINI version *was not* compared to the Spanish flu, unlike the Ver 20.
-- I'll just go with 'if a Doctor isn't willing to get the vax, then count me out as well" I was active duty at the time and was able to BS my way out of the shot. I'm still here. .
(I've not posted any links on this one. You can look for yourself and decide for yourself on this one.)

(elevator music starts here)
The H3N2 'pandemic' (G. Bush Sr/B Clinton) (1992- 1994)
Influenza Surveillance -- United States, 1992-93 and 1993-94
A rather long piece from the CDC on how they track flu.
Money quote:
"During nine of 20 influenza seasons (from 1972-73 through 1991-92), greater than 20,000 influenza-associated excess deaths occurred each season; during four of these seasons,(1992-1994) greater than 40,000 deaths occurred (CDC, unpublished data). Although there is season-to-season variability, in recent years greater than 90% of influenza-associated deaths have occurred among persons greater than or equal to 65 years of age "
(end elevator music)

Version 2.0 (B. Obama) (HINipdm09)
It is estimated that in the 2009 flu pandemic 11–21% of the then global population (of about 6.8 billion), or around 700 million to 1.4 billion people, contracted the illness—more in absolute terms than the Spanish flu pandemic. Actual fatalities in the US 12,469.(2009 and 2010). (some articles claim up 16K DRT)
However, in a 2012 study, the CDC estimated more than 284,000 possible fatalities worldwide, with range from 150,000 to 575,000. In August 2010, the World Health Organization declared the swine flu pandemic officially over.
Number of dead attributed to the vaccine - <20 per the CDC, the supplier of the vaccine.

Today - yeah, you know. I thought a bit of background history would allow folks to see the current issue set with some historical background for use in their decision making.

Still ain't taking any COVID vax. That's just me. You decide for you.

 

Not only NO, they will not force this on me and mine, HELL NO!
I will take my chances on my own, no way, no how will I submit to mandatory anything! Show up to enforce this, get a 7.62X51 through the head!

 

That's the whole "farming is dirty", "farming causes pandemics", "we have to stop farming to be safe", "we have to turn farming over for to total government control", "its safer that way".
And the road to communism is paved.

 

Almost.

More like - China is a disease reservoir owing to the way people live with livestock.


and then there is the whole wet market thing going on




I get "its a different culture" What I don't like is their diseases can kill us....

 

That’s filthy, no wonder disease gets started over there

 

The far East and the far west are about as equally far apart in distance as they are in how to farm to market.
But farming is getting blamed for what some guys screwing around in a bat cave caused.
I don't know they're commies and they must think refrigeration is theft from the state.