So which city would they nuke in a false flag op?

Discussion in 'Tin Foil Hat Lounge' started by Blackjack, Sep 12, 2007.


  1. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    With assumptions from another post.....

    If our own gov was to pop a nuke on US soil and blame it on the "terrorists" or "Iranians" or both in order to keep the current administration in power and take more liberty from the citizenry....... Where would they choose? What City?

    Would they take a 9/11 approach? Something high value and symbolic? Something like the statue of liberty or Hollywood or even DC?

    Or would they go the Katrina route and make it an expendable (in their eyes) population center?
     
  2. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    We can only hope they pick one in kali. Set it right, and I suppose the San Andreas would help out.
     
  3. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Well I mentioned the arguments for Whiteman AFB, KC, St Louis and Chicago in the other thread. So now heres another possible senario, small town/towns.

    There would also be th possibility for hitting small towns. While at first it may seem unlikely consider the possible effects. Phsycological effect would me the largest since security would be far lower in Mayberry than Manhatin so sucess is more likely, and a much smaller attack could wipe out an entire small town. Consider the difference in mental impact etween the news stories, 'Three building destroyed in financial district, 5000 dead.' or 'Three midwestern small towns destroyed, rescuers doubt survivors, 5000 confirmed dead.'. The small towns would likely be more relevant to more people than Wall street and hit 'closer to home' in addition to being in the heart of the nation rather than on the edge of the nation.

    The next point would be financial. While there might be better targets for the economy, most small towns in the midwest have grain elivators. Just an average to small one would still hold thousands of tons of grain that could be destroyed spikeing the price of anything made from flour, fed grain, or made from soy beans, not to mention the fact that with the right timeing/circumstances a firecracher could make the grain dust to ignite and turn the elivator its self into a huge bomb that could then possibly add the energy from all the farm chemicals (fertalizers, pesticides, herbacides, etc) stored on site to the explosion and following fire.

    So basily there would be less security and lots of soft spots, in the middle of the country showingfull access, and a good likely hood of being able to have the mental impact of killing all or nearly all inhabitants of the area.
     
  4. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    I dont know who will do it, but it will be in NYC
     
  5. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    Why do you think NY?
     
  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    You have to ask the right questions. First, it would be a crap-shoot to attempt to determine where a possible future attack may occur. This is primarily due to the constantly changing ulterior motives, which are numerous and plentiful. The very best avenue of approach is to use the political and monetary angles, as this is where the heart of the strategy is based. Just as "La-Qaeda" literally means "base", we need to guage where all of this coming from, not just why or what the effects will be.

    Just as Guiliani (sp?) was heralded as a hero for massing immediate public support in light of 9-11, the political and financial ties he had linked him with the cover up and the prior knowledge. The duality behind these terror attacks, symbolized by their inherant flaws by being tied financially and politically to black ops and the powerful elite may shed some light on narrowing down the possible future attacks, which will certainly be false flag ops as most of us can agree.

    So, where does this leave us? We can look at the presidential hopefuls and come up with a general guide for starters, and we must also include their political ties and running mates, as it will be just as beneficial for any related political figures to look good while the smoke settles. We must also ask the question "who will gain financially", because just as certain as rain is wet, there will always be a monetary gain in most terror attacks, if it will be through corporate kickbacks or insurance claims, to business contracts and increased government funding. Of course, the latter is most certainly a given and can be more difficult to pinpoint until after the terrible deed is done, it is possible to check into developments before any possible attack and view them as warning signs.

    I have no exact guess as to which city may become a target to any future attacks, and perhaps this alone is the single greatest blow to personal security and is demoralizing...which is of course an unfortunate effect which terrorism has.
     
  7. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Additionally, we should try and view this as if it really were a wartime setting on our own soil. The enemy utilizes the transportation outlets, airports (as in 9-11) and train stations (later with London 7-7). This disrupts ordinary travel, and increases security -which would seem counterproductive. This pattern would indicate the need to keep the "bad people" out, but it essentially keeps the rest of the people IN as well. In the United States, the primary means of travel is by automobile, and there is no direct way to attack the millions of automobiles (except for the EMP created by a nuclear device in a major city setting), and we must ask what is the next step for increasing travel restrictions and governmental control. What would illicit roadside checkpoints to become commonplace on our highways? Is this even a viable attack scenario?

    I think that no matter where the alleged nuke detonates, rural or inner city, the devastation will be tremendous if a full yield is released, especially if it is by the missing nuke posted recently, if one is in fact "missing". A 15 kiloton warhead would make a very large area uninhabitable for quite a long time I imagine...

    We can extrapolate for months on this subject, and still not come to a conclusion for what could actually happen. I believe it would be best to stick to the patterns and the connections that are already evident. Thus far, no civilian targets have been hit in the United States. They have been corporate, business, and government buildings -creating the illusion of evildoer vs. good guy, and covering the tracks of the conspirators involved within government and finance. I also believe there is credence in this whole "mock terror drill" effect. We have seen these mock exercises in both major attacks of 9-11 NY and 7-7 London on the very same day. Perhaps this pattern may become evident once again, no matter how unlikely it may seem.

    In conclusion, I can only ascertain that these clandestine operations seem to take place in financial and transportation areas, and in cases of natural disasters like New Orleans. I have to also pay mind to the end game scenario, which involves martial law. The legislative areas may be a target as well, and in one felled swoop could grant executive privilege like we have never before seen, even greater than that of FDR in the 30's.
     
  8. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    just a long look around, and thats where i think it will be. we will see.
     
  9. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    I think DC. Take care of that whole continuity of .gov red tape in one fell swoop.

    Decider can then decide without commentary
     
  10. poacher

    poacher Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Well I think they are going to take a false telephone poll of which liquor and beer most Americans like. Then they will nuke those towns and cities that have the distilleries and breweries located there.
    The reason they will do this because they know that when people find out they will try to buy all of the spirits and beer they can get and will be too busy to look at the Gov. Those that can't buy will go into a fit of depression and more than likely start walking around in a stupor. The people that don't drink will be so happy that the evil liquor demon has been destroyed that they won't notice that the current President and his cabinet have already bought over 200,000 cases of that particular liquor and beer. Then the current Pres. will use his stash to make Fema, the Senate and House esp. Ted Kennedy do his bidding.
    Meanwhile they will also send out a order to the Military base commanders which states they should order their troops to go out and secure all liquor stores under the new Exec order titled "Secret cereal malt and alcohol massive extinction directive" or SCAMED for short. Those that do comply with this order will be able to confiscate for their own use 1/16 of the available stock of that liquor store, after the Gov has assessed a special possession tax of 5/8's of the stock that the store has on hand. Those that don't comply with this directive will have a tattoo forcibly put on their forehead that says "NAB" for No Alcohol Buying then these people will never, ever, ever be able to buy, posses or have in their abode anything that is considered wine,spirits or beer.
    But then again I could be wrong [booze]

    Take care Be safe Poacher.
     
  11. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    That was my first thought between ritz crackers...if you believe the prez actually has delusions of dictatorship: a decapitating strike while prez and no1 are outta town but "our" representatives are quibbling over pork projects for their home districts
     
  12. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    From a social stand-point, DC is a boil on our butt with the most F-Ued laws, the highest murder rate, and some of the ugliest architecture anywhere, but still has tremendous historical and patriotic ties. Combine this with doing away with the judicial and legislative branches of the .gov in one fell swoop, that only leaves King George, who was touring New Orleans with a bag of federal money to build a new chocolate city.
     
  13. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Which is exactly why it would not be touched. Far better to screw with something less likely to raise nationwide ire. About the only thing the mess in (for example) New Orleans did was irritate a goodly number of people with the continued whining. Screw with our symbolic heart (never mind it's loaded with cholesterol and a high concentration of Ted) and you'll be hunted like a rabid dog. Besides, the red tape and lack of common sense will just help the confusion that hammering (say) Green Bay would cause. (Then again, Packer fans might be enough of a threat to the perps to give pause.) [booze]

    I think NY or Chicago better options from a "mess with the infrastructure" angle.
     
  14. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    someone asked if the Feds watch this site, well this thread is a sure bet they are now.
     
  15. sheen_estevez

    sheen_estevez Monkey+++

    [stayback][stayback][sawgunner]Better watch out for us cheese heads

    I think it would happen in heartland America, something that would have a bigger emotional affect, people think something will happen in NY, DC, sure those area's are always top of the list. But there is a certain thought of it would never happen here that people in heartland of the country need to get over
     
  16. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I still vote for DC for the very reasons that Quig pointed out. The glass is half-empty, dude.
     
  17. Canadian-guerilla

    Canadian-guerilla Monkey+++

    11 am
    a large explosion decapitates the Statue of Liberty

    11:30 am
    while gov't officials are surveying the damage
    and cameras and the public eyes are watching
    a small mini-nuke destroys Liberty Island and the statue

    11:30 am
    videotapes are delivered to all major and smaller media outlets

    " two larger nuclear devices will go off within 48 hours in the US "

    even if there were no other nukes
    think of the panic and the chaos
    would this be enough for martial law to be declared ?
     
  18. sniper-66

    sniper-66 Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I think it would be the geodetic center of the United States. That way, if the center of the United States doesn't exist....Does the United States itself exist.....Hmmmmmm
     
  19. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Yes, I believe that would do it.
    11:35am municipal water pressures drop all across the us as fema trained mall and campus cops in black fatigues "waterboard" any and all suspects including old ladies with walkers to get information and justify all the anti terror /torture legislation passed by TPTB. This is scenario they use to justify all this legislation.( the public will demand martial law"for their own protection)(Or have I just saturated my silly-putty-like brain with "collapse doomer porn")....
     
  20. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    You guys crack me up. This thread [woot].

    [LMAO][LMAO][LMAO][LMAO][LMAO][LMAO][LMAO][LMAO][LMAO][LMAO][LMAO][LMAO][LMAO] [booze]
     
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