solar minimum

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Big Ron, Sep 29, 2018.


  1. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    Gotta have global warming before you have an ice-age.
     
  2. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    huh? :unsure:
     
  3. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    The book - The Weather Conspiracy (1977) (oOld on Amazon) it is a real book, if now fully discredited.

    Some cogent contents:
    I ran across a copy of this a few years ago at a used book store.It's a great example of how little the "experts" really know about the climate.One of the scientists(the director no less!)quoted was from the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia,the exact same people now trying to sell us all the global warming BS !


    n the 1970's the top scientists in the world got together, and decided that the world was cooling. Yes, Global Cooling is REAL! In fact, as time goes on, the world will keep getting colder and colder. It's all true because the top scientists in the world say its true. The CIA gets involved and agrees. Basically we are all screwed! This is the best book to buy any of your friends who tell you that we are experiencing global warming.

    In paralleled terror /hokum tales, Nuclear Winter was getting some big play. The villain? Particulate pollution - soot from coal fired plants.

    That might have played out for the Global Control types, but as the power plants were cleaned up, visual particulate pollution all but disappeared (except in China, of course)

    A new boogyman had to be invented - and so CO2 and AGW became the new reason for a Global Government that would control every aspect your existence.

    Now, something interesting has arrived - .the Super Grand Solar Minimum

    Professor Valentina Zharkova gave a presentation of her Climate and the Solar Magnetic Field hypothesis at the Global Warming Policy Foundation in October, 2018.

    Zharkova models solar sunspot and magnetic activity. Her models have run at a 93% accuracy and her findings suggest a Super Grand Solar Minimum could begin in 2020.

    A Super Grand Solar Minimum would have four magnetic fields out of phase. There was about 40-60 years of cold weather 350 years ago. This was a Maunder Minimum of lower solar activity. The historical cold weather had two magnetic fields out of phase.

    Zharkova is predicting a cooling effect that is 2.5 to 4 times larger than the Maunder minimum. Zharkova’s analysis shows an 8 watts per square meter decrease in TSI (Total Solar Irradiance). A 2015 Nature study looked at 2 watts per square meter decrease causing a 0.13-degree celsius effect. A four times larger effect would be 0.5-degree celsius.

    AND

    Numerous studies have identified links between past climate and solar variability. During the Maunder Minimum (1645-1715), very few sunspots were seen despite regular observations. If the past relationships between TSI and ultraviolet irradiance and sunspots are the same as are observed for modern solar variability, then a decline in both TSI and ultraviolet for this period can be assumed. The Maunder Minimum coincided with more severe winters in the UK and continental Europe and many reconstructions suggest atmospheric conditions were broadly comparable with the regional effects on European atmospheric circulation found here. Some modeling studies also support the idea that similar regional cooling and circulation changes occurred during this period

    Why is this women credible for me?

    Past accuracy without altering the data input like some 'scientists' have repeatedly done. [Even after altering data the AGW 'models' still don't really work. To me - proof of fraud]

    Has legit credentials Msc in Math, PhD is Astrophysics

    That I know of - hasn't accepted any of the tainted - get payed for playing along 'grant' sources

    Most important -- Her work looks at a human-independent 'cause' of the issue at hand. IOW - no matter what we do or don't do, her prediction stands. I don't see any way she can profit from this....unless it is to stick it to the AGW crowd.
     
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  4. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Yeah the global warming belivers still insist the sun has no effect on earths climate.
     
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  5. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

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  6. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

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    mean Valdai temps

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    mean Valsai rainfall
    (https://www.geobabble.org/~hnw/valdai/) This is the Maximum ice

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    You're good. I'll need to move back to SoAz
     
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  7. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    I used my burning barrel today to save the planet.
    [GR]
    [reddevil]
     
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  8. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    history says there have been times when the earth has been much hotter then it is now... so?
     
  9. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    And colder.

    Oxygen levels have varied from 16%-24% as well according to polar ice core samples. 16% oxygen would be much more hot a hell than a creeping glacier, rising oceans, or stronger hurricanes in my neck of the woods.
     
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  10. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    24% oxygen?
    That could be interesting.
     
  11. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    Wildfires would be hell, that's for sure
     
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  12. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    On the news

    140 sea turtles found dead off of Cape Cod ...frozen to death. Sea water so cold it was slushy. Global warming was blamed...
     
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  13. Swedish woman

    Swedish woman Monkey

    I can say from our location , and don't not of this effects are trough the solar minimum or trouch the walking off the magnetic north pole, but here the warm weather in the summer getting shorter , our place is now 3 months free of tempratures below zero, when we came here this was 4 months, snowing is from mid september till mid may, and it's getting colder every year in the past summers are +15c ( when we start living here ) now days the temprature come to +8c and winters getting colder in the past some -35c below now days we have -45c ( some times it peaks till -50c, Snow when we came here we have some 1,3 meters of snow, now we have some 2 meters of snow, when this weather holds on in a vieuw years we have no summer anymore, 12 months a year freezing tempratures, and not snow free anymore. And since we here live we had never had rain but only snow or hail.

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  14. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    ohnoThat means that we only have 10-12 years...maybe AOC was right and wrong at the same time.
     
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  15. Swedish woman

    Swedish woman Monkey

    here we have today -17c and one of the last serious snow storms before summer comes, 50 cm fresh snow now.
    My husband and i have visit one of the animal shelters,

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  16. Big Ron

    Big Ron Monkey+++

    This year we had more snow and earlier in the year then we had in a while. It rained really good and the runoff filled the local lakes up. I check out a channel on youtube, Adapt 2030. Some good info about the weather all over the planet and in space.
     
  17. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Eyes open, no fear.

     
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