I just read the following dialog on Facebook and found it impossible to wander on down the road without adding my two cents. Read and weep Marianne XXXXX Civil War 18 hrs · This is awful. Please don't celebrate a war, ever, particularly one in which 600,000 American citizens lost their lives on American soil. Like · Comment · Share __________________________________ Steve Merola It's not a celebration its our history 12 hrs _______________________________________ Kevin Piacente Marianne your an idiot. I hope u are not celebrating 4th of July because I hate to tell you your celebrating a war. Our war of independence against the British. 11 hrs _______________________________________ Marianne xxxx No, it's celebrating the signing of the declaration of independence on July 4, 1776. Yes, that sparked the war but, once again, we are not "celebrating" a war. That is a disgusting concept. Remember, commemorate, memorialize a war. Don't CELEBRATE it. 10 hrs _________________________________________ Marianne xxxxx Also, I'm not an idiot. The three degrees, including a doctorate, hanging on my office wall testify to that as do the hundreds of clients I represent each year. 10 hrs ________________________________________ Marianne xxxxx And learn to spell. 10 hrs _______________________________________ Kevin Piacente Yes we are. We are celebrating the war that led to our independence. I'll celebrate for the fallen who laid down their lives so have/had the freedoms that are being ripped away from us today 9 hrs _______________________________________ Robin Ficarelli Actually it's celebrating the day that the final wording of the Declaration of Independence was approved by the Continental Congress. They signed in August of 1776 and the American Revolution started in April of 1775 with the Battle of Lexington and Concord. It's celebrating the day that we knew exactly what to say against tyrants to obtain our freedom and allow us to be the country we are today, which happened because of the war. I guess your doctorate didn't tell you that basic American History information. 9 hrs ________________________________________ Marianne xxxxx Well, if you guys want to celebrate death and destruction, go right ahead. The rest of the country will be celebrating the signing of the declaration of independence. Doesn't it seem quite the coincidence that our independence day is always on July 4, which was when the declaration of independence was signed? Just me? 9 hrs ___________________________________________ Robin Ficarelli It wasn't signed on July 4th....lol and how is this 4th of July celebration any different than what goes on in the rest of the country? Everyone has a BBQ or a fireworks show or goes to a carnival or parade. 9 hrs _______________________________________ Marianne xxxxx Ah, I had some of the details wrong, you're right. July 4, 1776 was the day the text was approved after many drafts. But we're still not celebrating the civil war. We're celebrating our freedom, our independence and our country's birth. My point was, and is, that the civil war has nothing to do with independence day and no one "celebrates" a war. And regarding my doctorate, that wasn't to suggest that I know everything - I know when to admit I'm wrong - it was to demonstrate that I'm not an idiot, as was asserted above. Declaration of Independence: Primary Documents of American History (Virtual Programs & Services, Library of Congress) Declaration of Independence: Primary Documents of American History (Virtual... loc.gov 9 hrs ___________________________________________ Warren Butchy Kolbenheyer Wow , ya know what's worse, your arguing about it! It's pretty clear in the original post it's a celebration of "the land of the free"! Last time I checked there weren't any degrees hanging on the walls of the grunts and soldiers on the front lines. Just because you have a wall of diplomas , it certainly doesn't prove anyone is smart, it proves they were intelligent enough to pass school. 1 hr _____________________________________ Marianne xxxxx I guess I'm just not articulating what was upsetting to me and, frankly, it's not all that important. Enjoy the holiday, folks. 1 hr _____________________________________ Dee Dickson That's part of the problem that exists today. Uninformed people view Independence Day as a "holiday." As citizens of the United States of America, our Constitution affords us the luxury of protection from an overzealous government. It allows even the most uninformed to voice their opinion, practice the religion of their choice, enjoy the freedom of the press, lay their head to rest without fear that the government will house military forces in their homes without their consent nor can they be held for a crime without evidence and subsequent due process. That very Constitution and it's attendant Bill of Rights is the single abiding document that defines what separates our nation from those that value power over the protection of the individual. A degree hanging on the wall means absolutely nothing except that someone enjoyed the freedom to attend a university without a government defining what could be studied. I would suggest that the most learned Marianne xxxxx utilize just a small portion of her education to actually read our national documents, actually read the Constitution, the Bill of rights, the Federalist Papers.....and then begin studying the real history of the founding of America. Ms xxxxx fails to understand that every success she has enjoyed in her life has come about because there were men and women who were willing to lay down their lives for the freedom she uses to be so disrespectful of their sacrifices. In many countries around the world, she would be imprisoned at the very least and quite possibly put to death for the statements she has made today. And when a police officer pulls you over on the way home tonight because he suspects you were involved in a crime, don't you dare use the "illegal search and seizure" card in your defense.