Survival Fishing with Poisons

Discussion in 'Back to Basics' started by GrandpaDave, Jan 24, 2012.

  1. GrandpaDave

    GrandpaDave Monkey++

    Look so I don't violate TOS or mistakenly teach the wrong sorts of people how to make poisons I will not go into the specifics on how to concoct... a google search with give you that how too... I just want to put a bug in your ear as it were... something to file away in your brains for that Just In Case...

    okay very quickly... in almost every state... fishing with poison is illegal...period... this is only to be used in a SHTF... you have to keep in mind that while natural poisons listed below will not effect humans...and break down in sunlight... you have to be aware you can wipe out a fish population in say a contained pond... ending your food supply... you might also effect the down stream fish populations too... think long term... but this method is the fastest way to acquire large quantities of fish fast...

    Native Americans have been using this method for hundreds of years, quite successfully... so it does work...
    in the US commonly used for fishing are...
  2. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Manroot....must be universal. My wife thinks it's poison too. :D
  3. GrandpaDave

    GrandpaDave Monkey++

    My wife wouldnt say poison... but I gotta earn the right to ues my Manroot...
    quickly and tastefully changing the topic...

    FYI another use for walnut husks is that is how they ues to make the old "Browning" for steel... not really a rustproofing but...
  4. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    They wiill when boiled also make a good stain... and if you need to darken your skin for a long time will also do that... (i recommend using gloves when you wipe the stain on or you may look a bit strange...;)
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  5. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Crushed China berries work well too
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  6. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    Hey GDave, don't worry about the post. It's good info to know. You are not advocating we immediately start poisoning ponds and such to harvest whatever they may hold. I have snares traps and other things that do not meet todays standard as sporting. Will they help to supply my tribe post shtf? I certainly hope so.
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  7. Illini Warrior

    Illini Warrior Illini Warrior

    I think it was Les Stroud that had an African experience using natural poisons ..... really bad stuff ..... kill a human in a couple of seconds ..... a spec in the eye and you're blind ..... camera guys wouldn't get close to the river ......
  8. GrandpaDave

    GrandpaDave Monkey++

    The ones I listed are fairly harmless to humans... mostly they work by blocking the fishes gills from being able to absorb O2... also they break down pretty quickly in sunlight and do not work at all in fast moving highly aerated water... still there there are much more dangerous poisons out there... none of them safe to eat said fish after use...

    Just saying there is more than one way to skin a fish... ya all...
  9. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

  10. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    You need to select a quiet pool, an area where you can control the amount of poison; Oft times the poison acts as an oxygen inhibitor to the fish rather than a toxin, much like rotenone (used in removal of undesirable fish from commercial farming operations). I have crushed walnut hulls or china berries inside a tobacco sack and lowered into the pool with a string attached for retrieval and a few small stones inside to sack to sink it. It generally takes about a half hour or more before sick looking fish start coming to the surface to gasp for breath, they eventually go tits up but they are pretty easy to bat out of the water with a stick before they die.
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  11. Frisian

    Frisian Monkey

    I have read about the use of "Rotenone", for survival fishing but have never talked to anyone who has actually used it.
    Has anyone here had the experience??
  12. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    We weer taught about it in jungle survival school... but it tends to kill most anything and last for 6 days or so in pools/ponds... not sure how long in running water...

    Poisons work well but a hand cranked magneto works easier and has mopre uses...

  13. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Trot-lining for ducks works real well to for survival poaching. You can set a trot-line across shallows where ducks feed and bait the hooks with nibblets of corn. Weight the line so that ducks have to dive to get the bait, just a few inches below surface. I imagine yo-yos would work real well too but trot-lines have hooks every couple of feet so it is easier to run them.
  14. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

    Duck is delicious
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  15. GrandpaDave

    GrandpaDave Monkey++

    I've done it... so have most of my brothers and sisters in arms who've attended one of the many "Survival" schools. Different plants for different parts of the world... but it is a tried and true method...

    Remember too the best survival gear you can have rest between your ears not carried on your back... most often what you know... will do more to save your life then what you hold in your hand
  16. Smitty

    Smitty Monkey+

    I've used rotenone to kill fish in a pond but never considered eating them afterwards....and yes it was legal and for work.

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