Take A Look at the Most Powerful, Widely Available, AR On the Market Today

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  1. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    Some claims are made... if true... wow?

    Editor’s Note: This article originally appeared on Guns.com.

    Wyoming-based gun maker Big Horn Armory brought some big guns to TriggrCon 2018 and didn’t disappoint. At the range, company rep Sam Kuntz showed off the AR500, an AR platform chambered for 500 Auto Max. And wow! That’s a whole lot of nastiness moving downrange quickly.

    Kuntz said “this is the most powerful, widely available AR on the market today … out of this 18-inch barrel we’re able to put a 440 grain hard cast downrange at 2,200 feet per second, resulting in 4,500 foot pounds of energy.” He added the 500 Auto Max has the same load data, shelf life and power as a .500 S&W.




    Take A Look at the Most Powerful, Widely Available, AR On the Market Today
     
  2. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    Neat-o
    Wonder why they didn't simply use the .500 S&W?
     
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  3. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Semi rimmed cartridge, maybe? Tough to run in semi's.
     
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  4. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    If I had that, I'd want a hand gun to match .
    It's the cowboy in me.
     
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  5. apache235

    apache235 Monkey+

    Hmmm, sub-sonic and suppressed
     
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  6. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    I just have to wonder how accurate follow-up shots are...

    I'll pass.
     
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  7. apache235

    apache235 Monkey+

    For a .50 cal the can would cost more than the rifle, but what an awesome rig. I'd think that with a good brake or can (or both) recoil wouldn't be too bad. Range on the other hand might be a bit short or you could use it for indirect fire. I'd think the bc on those big bullets would be pretty low.
     
  8. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    It would cost a fortune to shoot, that's for sure, so one would have to reload.
     
  9. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    It would be interesting to see a genuine comparison in ballistic gel exactly what it's capabilities are .
    Especially laid next to other relevant rounds .
     
  10. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    $67. for 20 rounds
     
  11. Oddcaliber

    Oddcaliber Monkey+

    That's why I like 9mm ! LOL
     
  12. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Brass is 250 $200, 500 $315 and 1K $540.
     
  13. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready! Site Supporter++

    700 gr. Bullet. That would have to beat the crap out of an AR platform.
     
  14. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Eh, it's pretty awesome for home defense, hog hunting, anything close up. But, combat? Anything outside 200yds we're talking ballistic poop.

    balcalc_chart_1533947886.
    And that's the closest I could make it since it's a handgun cartridge. Set with the 440gr. and 2,200fps, the drop will not be good... we're talking a terminal velocity with 859fps at 500 yds. This should speak volumes to accuracy, we can completely ignore the lethality part of the equation if the bullet isn't accurate. I can only guess and say a -200 inch drop at 500 yards is abysmal. But, you are looking at maybe 10 to 12 inch drop at 200 yards and an acceptable 1,343 velocity. Compare this with a Winchester .308 pushing 2,900 fps (just one bullet I use) :
    balcalc_chart_1533948334.
    And the .308 is still hitting with more than 2,000 fps at 500 yards.

    So, up close and personal, yes. Take that baby out of its element, and you're SOL.
     
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  15. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    Shelf life? That's a very strange criteria. I wasn't aware that any modern firearm cartridge had a shelf life concern. (Unless they're talking about the time from introduction to obsolecense.)

    I'd look more at case availability. I've made semi-rimmed from rimless (7.62x28 Nagant from .223) and rimless from rimmed (.32 Remington from .30-30 Winchester) but none of it is easy or fun. Even assuming you could get a bunch of .500 S&W brass cheap,
    and have a single bit ground to do the conversion in one cut, it's still a novelty cartridge.

    Not a lot of potential for case conversions from rifle brass. Even the big belted magnums are a tad small in diameter, so you're back to something big and rimmed, like .348 Winchester, which isn't exactly common range pick-up brass.

    .30 Giraffe Magnum. Why not just go with the.300 Giraffe Magnum. Rebated, belted, double-shouldered, and uses round projectiles that roll off-the-shelf. :)
     
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  16. How about necking the .50 bmg to shoot a 6.5mm bullet. May have a problem with short barrel life. But what the heck we're dreamin' here.
     
  17. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    That's funny ,
    you could shoot the 50 @2200fps and then pick up a 17 HMR @2550 and still hit the 50 in flight.
     
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